Street lights in Kidderminster will be among first to be switched off

Kidderminster Shuttle: Street lights in Kidderminster will be among first to be switched off Street lights in Kidderminster will be among first to be switched off

RESIDENTIAL areas in Kidderminster will be among the first in Worcestershire to have their street lights switched off, as part of a cost-cutting council scheme.

Worcestershire County Council's cabinet, during a meeting on Thursday last week, agreed to switch off two out of three street lights in residential areas across the county by replacing bulbs with special timed dimmers which go out from midnight to 6am.

No exact dates have yet been decided but lights in Kidderminster and Droitwich are set to be switched off in June or July this year, during the first phase of the 18 to 24 month operation which will see about 1,000 lights a month blacked out.

The council operates 52,000 lights but wants to save £500,000 a year by cutting increasing energy costs and bringing down its carbon emissions.

During the meeting county Liberal Democrat councillors argued more lights should be switched off than is planned but the scheme also sparked concerns about increasing crime rates and traffic collisions.

Council leaders said the scheme would be reviewed on a regular basis with West Mercia Police and lights on all main roads, bends and junctions to housing estates will be kept on as well as areas with higher crime rates.

During a six month trial in Droitwich in 2012, the authority said, there was "no discernible change in crime or to road safety" and "following an initial period of public concern during the early stage, little complaint subsequently occurred".

Conservative councillor John Smith, cabinet member for highways, said: "Like residents and businesses, the council's energy bills have increased over the last few years and it's right we look at reducing the spend on street lighting, while at the same time cutting our carbon emissions.

"This is something that has been considered and discussed for some time. We understand this issue is important which is why, following the Droitwich trial period, we're looking to move things forward in a flexible way. Working to a one-size-fits-all approach simply wouldn't work.

"It's very important people are not confused and it's understood this will be a part-night switch off of two out of three lights, in residential areas, from midnight until 6am."

Stourport and Bewdley are set to follow within the next two years.

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9:14am Thu 13 Feb 14

Boot Boi !! says...

And Worcester lights are switched off when ??
And Worcester lights are switched off when ?? Boot Boi !!

10:12am Thu 13 Feb 14

davsee says...

How about making a start by turning off the lights in public toilets when they are closed? Brinton Park and Vale rd Stourport have light blazing all the time. This not only wastes money but also gives passing motorists the impression they are open only to find they are not after parking up.
Just what is so difficult in flicking a switch when the doors are locked?
How about making a start by turning off the lights in public toilets when they are closed? Brinton Park and Vale rd Stourport have light blazing all the time. This not only wastes money but also gives passing motorists the impression they are open only to find they are not after parking up. Just what is so difficult in flicking a switch when the doors are locked? davsee

10:15am Thu 13 Feb 14

Wyred Fox says...

So how much money will it *really* save once we've spent a fortune on replacing every bulb?
So how much money will it *really* save once we've spent a fortune on replacing every bulb? Wyred Fox

2:17pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Shibdrift says...

Yes, that will make everyone sleep soundly in their beds and encourage people to venture outdoors in an evening won't it?!!
Let's wait and see where the areas with high crime rates will end up being, after yet another brilliant brainwave from the muppets in charge!!
Yes, that will make everyone sleep soundly in their beds and encourage people to venture outdoors in an evening won't it?!! Let's wait and see where the areas with high crime rates will end up being, after yet another brilliant brainwave from the muppets in charge!! Shibdrift

2:18pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Shibdrift says...

Pipe all the hot air spouted from WFDC into a turbine, we'll all get free electricity then!
Pipe all the hot air spouted from WFDC into a turbine, we'll all get free electricity then! Shibdrift

2:32pm Thu 13 Feb 14

kunuty says...

No lights no shops RIP Kidd/ster
No lights no shops RIP Kidd/ster kunuty

2:40pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Mr.Fie says...

Wouldn't it make more sense to just upgrade the lighting technology to cost and power saving LED and maintain our current lighting at a fraction of the running and maintenance cost? ... Then again the 'council' and 'sense' aren't two words you expect to find together. Instead Lets go back to the 'dark ages' ;)
Wouldn't it make more sense to just upgrade the lighting technology to cost and power saving LED and maintain our current lighting at a fraction of the running and maintenance cost? ... Then again the 'council' and 'sense' aren't two words you expect to find together. Instead Lets go back to the 'dark ages' ;) Mr.Fie

3:01pm Thu 13 Feb 14

davewal says...

The large County Council logo at the top of this article may hint to who has made this decision but just in case it was Worcester County Council who are responsible for the change. The number to report "lights out" is 0800 137352. If you report them they might just get the hint. If not then you can complain to the Worcestershire Hub OR you can spout rhetorical nonsense about WFDC who had absolutely nothing to do with the decision and blame them anyway.........becau
se they are corrupt and despicable etc.etc. *yawn*
Your choice.
The large County Council logo at the top of this article may hint to who has made this decision but just in case it was Worcester County Council who are responsible for the change. The number to report "lights out" is 0800 137352. If you report them they might just get the hint. If not then you can complain to the Worcestershire Hub OR you can spout rhetorical nonsense about WFDC who had absolutely nothing to do with the decision and blame them anyway.........becau se they are corrupt and despicable etc.etc. *yawn* Your choice. davewal

9:00pm Thu 13 Feb 14

emjaypee says...

kunuty wrote:
No lights no shops RIP Kidd/ster
How many shops are open between midnight & 6am?
[quote][p][bold]kunuty[/bold] wrote: No lights no shops RIP Kidd/ster[/p][/quote]How many shops are open between midnight & 6am? emjaypee

9:32pm Thu 13 Feb 14

MRSDEAKIN says...

emjaypee wrote:
kunuty wrote:
No lights no shops RIP Kidd/ster
How many shops are open between midnight & 6am?
one that i know of
[quote][p][bold]emjaypee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kunuty[/bold] wrote: No lights no shops RIP Kidd/ster[/p][/quote]How many shops are open between midnight & 6am?[/p][/quote]one that i know of MRSDEAKIN

11:14pm Thu 13 Feb 14

sladen54 says...

Areas with high crime rates the lights will be kept on, that's most of Kiddy then
Areas with high crime rates the lights will be kept on, that's most of Kiddy then sladen54

9:28am Fri 14 Feb 14

nipper22 says...

Last one to leave can you please turn the lights off !!!
Last one to leave can you please turn the lights off !!! nipper22

11:38am Fri 14 Feb 14

kunuty says...

emjaypee wrote:
kunuty wrote:
No lights no shops RIP Kidd/ster
How many shops are open between midnight & 6am?
You are a silly little girl, go and play with your dollys
[quote][p][bold]emjaypee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kunuty[/bold] wrote: No lights no shops RIP Kidd/ster[/p][/quote]How many shops are open between midnight & 6am?[/p][/quote]You are a silly little girl, go and play with your dollys kunuty

12:23pm Fri 14 Feb 14

Concerned resident of Stourport says...

Why not dim all the lights instead of switching off 1 in 3 that way there wont be any black section of road and the life of all the lamps will be significantly increased. Also Worcestershire is about five years behind the rest of the country, some county councils have switch street lights back on after people have pedestrians have been killed by vehicles who's driver would have seen them if the lighting was switched on this is according to the coroners reports.

there's no point in changing to LED, it is less efficient than the current lamps used - from many years of designing street lighting scheme's I have first hand knowledge of how expensive LED lighting is (about £1200 per lantern) and they use more electricity than the lamps current used in the area.
Why not dim all the lights instead of switching off 1 in 3 that way there wont be any black section of road and the life of all the lamps will be significantly increased. Also Worcestershire is about five years behind the rest of the country, some county councils have switch street lights back on after people have pedestrians have been killed by vehicles who's driver would have seen them if the lighting was switched on this is according to the coroners reports. there's no point in changing to LED, it is less efficient than the current lamps used - from many years of designing street lighting scheme's I have first hand knowledge of how expensive LED lighting is (about £1200 per lantern) and they use more electricity than the lamps current used in the area. Concerned resident of Stourport

1:20pm Fri 14 Feb 14

emjaypee says...

kunuty wrote:
emjaypee wrote:
kunuty wrote:
No lights no shops RIP Kidd/ster
How many shops are open between midnight & 6am?
You are a silly little girl, go and play with your dollys
Oh dear you make an assumption as to my gender which may or may not be correct. When you assume you make an **** out of U and ME....FOLL - DE-ROLL.
[quote][p][bold]kunuty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]emjaypee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kunuty[/bold] wrote: No lights no shops RIP Kidd/ster[/p][/quote]How many shops are open between midnight & 6am?[/p][/quote]You are a silly little girl, go and play with your dollys[/p][/quote]Oh dear you make an assumption as to my gender which may or may not be correct. When you assume you make an **** out of U and ME....FOLL - DE-ROLL. emjaypee

2:11pm Fri 14 Feb 14

Fran says...

Sorry sladen54 but most of Kidderminster is a low crime area.
Light switch off in Bewdley and Stourport is due in next 2 years'
Sorry sladen54 but most of Kidderminster is a low crime area. Light switch off in Bewdley and Stourport is due in next 2 years' Fran

2:34pm Fri 14 Feb 14

DOEPUBLIC says...

Concerned resident of Stourport wrote:
Why not dim all the lights instead of switching off 1 in 3 that way there wont be any black section of road and the life of all the lamps will be significantly increased. Also Worcestershire is about five years behind the rest of the country, some county councils have switch street lights back on after people have pedestrians have been killed by vehicles who's driver would have seen them if the lighting was switched on this is according to the coroners reports.

there's no point in changing to LED, it is less efficient than the current lamps used - from many years of designing street lighting scheme's I have first hand knowledge of how expensive LED lighting is (about £1200 per lantern) and they use more electricity than the lamps current used in the area.
Is it possible for movement sensitivity to then increase the power when necessary? Solar panel collection during the light hours? Economy electricity over night? Reactive thinking by the council, penny pinching again.
Clearly ignoring why the lights were put there in the first place.
[quote][p][bold]Concerned resident of Stourport[/bold] wrote: Why not dim all the lights instead of switching off 1 in 3 that way there wont be any black section of road and the life of all the lamps will be significantly increased. Also Worcestershire is about five years behind the rest of the country, some county councils have switch street lights back on after people have pedestrians have been killed by vehicles who's driver would have seen them if the lighting was switched on this is according to the coroners reports. there's no point in changing to LED, it is less efficient than the current lamps used - from many years of designing street lighting scheme's I have first hand knowledge of how expensive LED lighting is (about £1200 per lantern) and they use more electricity than the lamps current used in the area.[/p][/quote]Is it possible for movement sensitivity to then increase the power when necessary? Solar panel collection during the light hours? Economy electricity over night? Reactive thinking by the council, penny pinching again. Clearly ignoring why the lights were put there in the first place. DOEPUBLIC

2:38pm Fri 14 Feb 14

DOEPUBLIC says...

And how much would it cost us each to keep them on? Why presume the public are not prepared to pay?
And how much would it cost us each to keep them on? Why presume the public are not prepared to pay? DOEPUBLIC

12:51pm Tue 18 Feb 14

Shibdrift says...

Fran wrote:
Sorry sladen54 but most of Kidderminster is a low crime area. Light switch off in Bewdley and Stourport is due in next 2 years'
"most of Kidderminster.......
....low crime"??!!

Compared with what?

More rubbish. Still, turn the lights off and we won't be able to see what's going on! If you can't see it, it isn't happening. Isn't that how political statistics work?
[quote][p][bold]Fran[/bold] wrote: Sorry sladen54 but most of Kidderminster is a low crime area. Light switch off in Bewdley and Stourport is due in next 2 years'[/p][/quote]"most of Kidderminster....... ....low crime"??!! Compared with what? More rubbish. Still, turn the lights off and we won't be able to see what's going on! If you can't see it, it isn't happening. Isn't that how political statistics work? Shibdrift

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