TEXT US YOUR NEWS
Send your News, Pics & Videos to 80360. Text KS News, leave a space, tell us your news, and send... or click here! »
Row rumbles on over Stourport skatepark
4:19pm Wednesday 14th February 2007
Comments (81)Vote in our online poll - see Editor's Choice panel
A NEW £90,000 skatepark will be up and running by Stourport's riverside in May despite further calls for Wyre Forest District Council to rethink its location.
The row over plans to build the facility is continuing, with Stourport Town Council and the Wyre Forest authority at odds over the best place for the attraction.
Stourport town councillor, David Little, said the proposed site, in front of the paddling pool at Riverside Meadows, was "not at all suitable", adding: "Teenagers can be rowdy so you can't put them next to families and young children who use the paddling pool and playground. It needs to be tucked away."
The town council feels a former netball court, now used as a car park, behind Stourport Sports Centre, off Harold Davies Drive would make a better home.
Claire Moore, who runs a putting green at Riverside Meadows, said she feared the riverside site, which is in the flood plain, would be vulnerable when the river burst its banks.
She added: "I am not against the skatepark at all. I think it is a wonderful thing for Stourport but I don't think it should be next to the kids' playground. It is a nice area for families to picnic and play."
John Campion, the district council's cabinet member for finance and corporate affairs, said the skatepark would increase facilities for teenagers in the town, adding the site was chosen after "a raft of consultation" with organisations, including police and user groups.
Nathan Desmond, cabinet member for community and leisure services, added: "The riverside is for people of all ages. It is only a small minority of teenagers that cause anti-social behaviour. I don't think it is fair to tar them all with the same brush.
"The riverside is not an ideal location for the skatepark, I admit, but all the other locations we have looked at are not suitable for various reasons. For this project to go ahead, it has to be by the riverside."
Go to news/videonews for a video of John Campion and Dave Little giving their views on the chosen riverside location.
Your Say YourKidderminster Shuttle
Chris Rogers, Stourport says...
9:43am Thu 15 Feb 07
Nathan is quite correct, the riverside is for people of all ages. To attempt to detach the skate board park & put it out of the way a bit would only serve to encourage the very behaviour that we want to eliminate.
Chris Rogers, Stourport says...
9:43am Thu 15 Feb 07
Nathan is quite correct, the riverside is for people of all ages. To attempt to detach the skate board park & put it out of the way a bit would only serve to encourage the very behaviour that we want to eliminate.
Tom, Stourport says...
11:34am Thu 15 Feb 07
Chris the riverside is for all ages but with all the meadows & space along the riverside why should a teenage attraction be placed on top of a family area. For years the putting green and paddling pool has offered a perfect environment for families with young children to have a nice day out. Why risk change when there are a number of different areas the skate parks could be built?
Tom, Stourport says...
11:34am Thu 15 Feb 07
Chris the riverside is for all ages but with all the meadows & space along the riverside why should a teenage attraction be placed on top of a family area. For years the putting green and paddling pool has offered a perfect environment for families with young children to have a nice day out. Why risk change when there are a number of different areas the skate parks could be built?
Tom, Stourport says...
11:34am Thu 15 Feb 07
Chris the riverside is for all ages but with all the meadows & space along the riverside why should a teenage attraction be placed on top of a family area. For years the putting green and paddling pool has offered a perfect environment for families with young children to have a nice day out. Why risk change when there are a number of different areas the skate parks could be built?
Tavis Pitt (wfa.org.uk) (www.wfa.org.uk/?/cal/20070214), The Wyre Forest Agenda says...
11:18pm Thu 15 Feb 07
If you listen to the video you see that Cllr. Campion offers no advantages for the riverside site of the skateboard park. So we, the district taxpayers, have forked out money for "a raft of consultation" and at the end of it we get not a single advantage of the ‘decided’ site!
I'll do it myself:
Riverside site:
Advantages:
(1) Less anti-social behaviour because in the public view
Disadvantages:
(1) On the flood plain (I suppose this could be an advantage for wind surfers)
(2) Interference with families at the pool, the play area, the promenade and ice cream stall
(3) Very limited access for emergency services
(4) The space was already taken up (successfully?) by the bouncy castle in summer
Have I blogged about this?
Check out the Wyre Forest Agenda (wfa.org.uk) to find out!
I'll do it myself:
Riverside site:
Advantages:
(1) Less anti-social behaviour because in the public view
Disadvantages:
(1) On the flood plain (I suppose this could be an advantage for wind surfers)
(2) Interference with families at the pool, the play area, the promenade and ice cream stall
(3) Very limited access for emergency services
(4) The space was already taken up (successfully?) by the bouncy castle in summer
Have I blogged about this?
Check out the Wyre Forest Agenda (wfa.org.uk) to find out!
Tavis Pitt (wfa.org.uk) (www.wfa.org.uk/?/cal/20070214), The Wyre Forest Agenda says...
11:18pm Thu 15 Feb 07
If you listen to the video you see that Cllr. Campion offers no advantages for the riverside site of the skateboard park. So we, the district taxpayers, have forked out money for "a raft of consultation" and at the end of it we get not a single advantage of the ‘decided’ site!
I'll do it myself:
Riverside site:
Advantages:
(1) Less anti-social behaviour because in the public view
Disadvantages:
(1) On the flood plain (I suppose this could be an advantage for wind surfers)
(2) Interference with families at the pool, the play area, the promenade and ice cream stall
(3) Very limited access for emergency services
(4) The space was already taken up (successfully?) by the bouncy castle in summer
Have I blogged about this?
Check out the Wyre Forest Agenda (wfa.org.uk) to find out!
I'll do it myself:
Riverside site:
Advantages:
(1) Less anti-social behaviour because in the public view
Disadvantages:
(1) On the flood plain (I suppose this could be an advantage for wind surfers)
(2) Interference with families at the pool, the play area, the promenade and ice cream stall
(3) Very limited access for emergency services
(4) The space was already taken up (successfully?) by the bouncy castle in summer
Have I blogged about this?
Check out the Wyre Forest Agenda (wfa.org.uk) to find out!
Tavis Pitt (wfa.org.uk) (www.wfa.org.uk/?/cal/20070214), The Wyre Forest Agenda says...
11:18pm Thu 15 Feb 07
If you listen to the video you see that Cllr. Campion offers no advantages for the riverside site of the skateboard park. So we, the district taxpayers, have forked out money for "a raft of consultation" and at the end of it we get not a single advantage of the ‘decided’ site!
I'll do it myself:
Riverside site:
Advantages:
(1) Less anti-social behaviour because in the public view
Disadvantages:
(1) On the flood plain (I suppose this could be an advantage for wind surfers)
(2) Interference with families at the pool, the play area, the promenade and ice cream stall
(3) Very limited access for emergency services
(4) The space was already taken up (successfully?) by the bouncy castle in summer
Have I blogged about this?
Check out the Wyre Forest Agenda (wfa.org.uk) to find out!
I'll do it myself:
Riverside site:
Advantages:
(1) Less anti-social behaviour because in the public view
Disadvantages:
(1) On the flood plain (I suppose this could be an advantage for wind surfers)
(2) Interference with families at the pool, the play area, the promenade and ice cream stall
(3) Very limited access for emergency services
(4) The space was already taken up (successfully?) by the bouncy castle in summer
Have I blogged about this?
Check out the Wyre Forest Agenda (wfa.org.uk) to find out!
Tom Horton, says...
4:36pm Sat 17 Feb 07
Perhaps everybody should calm down and take some perspective on things. The proposed site is the most viable as far as stourport is concerned, although a comprimise in some ways. I think there is rather too much unfounded stigma attached to skateparks and their percieved users. I don't see how placing another piece of play equipment on the riverside site will serve as a beacon for anti-social behaviour and disturbance to current users, any more than any other recent developments. The users of the Fun Box mobile equipment in the county over the past few years have been nothing but a fantastic reperesntation of youth in the local area, and on average tend to be younger children and young teenagers. Although maybe not directly comparable to a set of swings, see-saws, and roundabouts - a skatepark is as accessable to people of all ages and social backgrounds, not just a narrow band of rowdy "extreme" teenagers. Many thanks should go to Nathan Desmond for taking the trouble to get involved with the youth, to get on their level and understand current issues facing them. If people are still worried about interaction between families and older young people, perhaps some effort should go into improving relations between the different social groups within the town, and building some sense of community.
I really do hope the skatepark goes ahead, in 12months time everyone will wonder what the fuss was all about.
I really do hope the skatepark goes ahead, in 12months time everyone will wonder what the fuss was all about.
Tom Horton, says...
4:36pm Sat 17 Feb 07
Perhaps everybody should calm down and take some perspective on things. The proposed site is the most viable as far as stourport is concerned, although a comprimise in some ways. I think there is rather too much unfounded stigma attached to skateparks and their percieved users. I don't see how placing another piece of play equipment on the riverside site will serve as a beacon for anti-social behaviour and disturbance to current users, any more than any other recent developments. The users of the Fun Box mobile equipment in the county over the past few years have been nothing but a fantastic reperesntation of youth in the local area, and on average tend to be younger children and young teenagers. Although maybe not directly comparable to a set of swings, see-saws, and roundabouts - a skatepark is as accessable to people of all ages and social backgrounds, not just a narrow band of rowdy "extreme" teenagers. Many thanks should go to Nathan Desmond for taking the trouble to get involved with the youth, to get on their level and understand current issues facing them. If people are still worried about interaction between families and older young people, perhaps some effort should go into improving relations between the different social groups within the town, and building some sense of community.
I really do hope the skatepark goes ahead, in 12months time everyone will wonder what the fuss was all about.
I really do hope the skatepark goes ahead, in 12months time everyone will wonder what the fuss was all about.
Tom Horton, says...
4:36pm Sat 17 Feb 07
Perhaps everybody should calm down and take some perspective on things. The proposed site is the most viable as far as stourport is concerned, although a comprimise in some ways. I think there is rather too much unfounded stigma attached to skateparks and their percieved users. I don't see how placing another piece of play equipment on the riverside site will serve as a beacon for anti-social behaviour and disturbance to current users, any more than any other recent developments. The users of the Fun Box mobile equipment in the county over the past few years have been nothing but a fantastic reperesntation of youth in the local area, and on average tend to be younger children and young teenagers. Although maybe not directly comparable to a set of swings, see-saws, and roundabouts - a skatepark is as accessable to people of all ages and social backgrounds, not just a narrow band of rowdy "extreme" teenagers. Many thanks should go to Nathan Desmond for taking the trouble to get involved with the youth, to get on their level and understand current issues facing them. If people are still worried about interaction between families and older young people, perhaps some effort should go into improving relations between the different social groups within the town, and building some sense of community.
I really do hope the skatepark goes ahead, in 12months time everyone will wonder what the fuss was all about.
I really do hope the skatepark goes ahead, in 12months time everyone will wonder what the fuss was all about.
David, kidderminster says...
9:22am Sun 18 Feb 07
If Stourport needs a skateboard park, which I doubt, the Riverside is the wrong place for it. The people who will use it do not live there, so why not put it where they live, either on the Walshes or on Burlish Park or Lickhill Road area, or even by the sports centre. All this talk about the walshes users won't go to Burlish Park and vis versa, is a load of rubbish, if they want to use it they will travel. The Riverside area they want to use is for families and small children not youths. So let's keep the two separated and put the skateboard park where the people who will use it live!
David, kidderminster says...
9:22am Sun 18 Feb 07
If Stourport needs a skateboard park, which I doubt, the Riverside is the wrong place for it. The people who will use it do not live there, so why not put it where they live, either on the Walshes or on Burlish Park or Lickhill Road area, or even by the sports centre. All this talk about the walshes users won't go to Burlish Park and vis versa, is a load of rubbish, if they want to use it they will travel. The Riverside area they want to use is for families and small children not youths. So let's keep the two separated and put the skateboard park where the people who will use it live!
David, kidderminster says...
9:22am Sun 18 Feb 07
If Stourport needs a skateboard park, which I doubt, the Riverside is the wrong place for it. The people who will use it do not live there, so why not put it where they live, either on the Walshes or on Burlish Park or Lickhill Road area, or even by the sports centre. All this talk about the walshes users won't go to Burlish Park and vis versa, is a load of rubbish, if they want to use it they will travel. The Riverside area they want to use is for families and small children not youths. So let's keep the two separated and put the skateboard park where the people who will use it live!
Winthorpe, Stourport says...
5:36pm Sun 18 Feb 07
If the conucil are looking for a suitable place to locate the new skate park, and wish it to be tucked away without it being located next to a paddling pool, why not build it on the memorial park on the site of the paddling pool that the council decided to remove some years ago. This also may encourage the young cider drinkin hoodlums who congregate on the band stand to partake in some exercise rather than being a public nuisance.
Winthorpe, Stourport says...
5:36pm Sun 18 Feb 07
If the conucil are looking for a suitable place to locate the new skate park, and wish it to be tucked away without it being located next to a paddling pool, why not build it on the memorial park on the site of the paddling pool that the council decided to remove some years ago. This also may encourage the young cider drinkin hoodlums who congregate on the band stand to partake in some exercise rather than being a public nuisance.
Winthorpe, Stourport says...
5:36pm Sun 18 Feb 07
If the conucil are looking for a suitable place to locate the new skate park, and wish it to be tucked away without it being located next to a paddling pool, why not build it on the memorial park on the site of the paddling pool that the council decided to remove some years ago. This also may encourage the young cider drinkin hoodlums who congregate on the band stand to partake in some exercise rather than being a public nuisance.
Karen, Sydney, Australia says...
11:19am Mon 19 Feb 07
I agree that the skate park is a great idea, but I am not so sure that it should be located next to the toddler's play area. There is plenty of open space along the riverside meadow area, which would allow easy access to emergency vehicles, why do we have to cram everything into one small area of land, which is also prone to flooding.
Most parks here in Oz have skate bowls and ramps and the kids have a fantastic time, they are getting freshair and exercise and they are far from the yobs people seem to think these places attract. In fact I have even seen a few 30 - 40yr old skateboarders left over from the 80's when it was a very popular sport!
Stourport needs this and so do the kids....
Most parks here in Oz have skate bowls and ramps and the kids have a fantastic time, they are getting freshair and exercise and they are far from the yobs people seem to think these places attract. In fact I have even seen a few 30 - 40yr old skateboarders left over from the 80's when it was a very popular sport!
Stourport needs this and so do the kids....
Karen, Sydney, Australia says...
11:19am Mon 19 Feb 07
I agree that the skate park is a great idea, but I am not so sure that it should be located next to the toddler's play area. There is plenty of open space along the riverside meadow area, which would allow easy access to emergency vehicles, why do we have to cram everything into one small area of land, which is also prone to flooding.
Most parks here in Oz have skate bowls and ramps and the kids have a fantastic time, they are getting freshair and exercise and they are far from the yobs people seem to think these places attract. In fact I have even seen a few 30 - 40yr old skateboarders left over from the 80's when it was a very popular sport!
Stourport needs this and so do the kids....
Most parks here in Oz have skate bowls and ramps and the kids have a fantastic time, they are getting freshair and exercise and they are far from the yobs people seem to think these places attract. In fact I have even seen a few 30 - 40yr old skateboarders left over from the 80's when it was a very popular sport!
Stourport needs this and so do the kids....
Karen, Sydney, Australia says...
11:19am Mon 19 Feb 07
I agree that the skate park is a great idea, but I am not so sure that it should be located next to the toddler's play area. There is plenty of open space along the riverside meadow area, which would allow easy access to emergency vehicles, why do we have to cram everything into one small area of land, which is also prone to flooding.
Most parks here in Oz have skate bowls and ramps and the kids have a fantastic time, they are getting freshair and exercise and they are far from the yobs people seem to think these places attract. In fact I have even seen a few 30 - 40yr old skateboarders left over from the 80's when it was a very popular sport!
Stourport needs this and so do the kids....
Most parks here in Oz have skate bowls and ramps and the kids have a fantastic time, they are getting freshair and exercise and they are far from the yobs people seem to think these places attract. In fact I have even seen a few 30 - 40yr old skateboarders left over from the 80's when it was a very popular sport!
Stourport needs this and so do the kids....
Tavis Pitt, The Wyre Forest Agenda says...
12:46pm Wed 21 Feb 07
Tom Horton wrote: "The proposed site is the most viable as far as Stourport is concerned, although a compromise in some ways."
Interesting, Tom seems to have more information than most, what where these compromises he is talking about?
Tom Horton wrote: "I don't see how placing another piece of play equipment on the riverside site will serve as a beacon for anti-social behaviour and disturbance to current users, any more than any other recent developments."
Arrrrr! A skateboard park is not another piece of playground equipment! Tom obviously has no idea about outdoor skateboard parks. An outdoor skateboard park is made entirely of concrete not metal ramps on tarmac. This is what local skaters have been asking Nathan Desmond for and what the wider skating community regards as a proper outdoor skateboard park. Thankfully I asked Cllr. Desmond if it was in concrete and he said it would be. So we are getting a proper custom formed outdoor skate park made entirely of concrete and not another Borrington Road, like you suggest!
Have I blogged about this?
Check out the Wyre Forest Agenda (wfa.org.uk) to find out!
Interesting, Tom seems to have more information than most, what where these compromises he is talking about?
Tom Horton wrote: "I don't see how placing another piece of play equipment on the riverside site will serve as a beacon for anti-social behaviour and disturbance to current users, any more than any other recent developments."
Arrrrr! A skateboard park is not another piece of playground equipment! Tom obviously has no idea about outdoor skateboard parks. An outdoor skateboard park is made entirely of concrete not metal ramps on tarmac. This is what local skaters have been asking Nathan Desmond for and what the wider skating community regards as a proper outdoor skateboard park. Thankfully I asked Cllr. Desmond if it was in concrete and he said it would be. So we are getting a proper custom formed outdoor skate park made entirely of concrete and not another Borrington Road, like you suggest!
Have I blogged about this?
Check out the Wyre Forest Agenda (wfa.org.uk) to find out!
Tavis Pitt, The Wyre Forest Agenda says...
12:46pm Wed 21 Feb 07
Tom Horton wrote: "The proposed site is the most viable as far as Stourport is concerned, although a compromise in some ways."
Interesting, Tom seems to have more information than most, what where these compromises he is talking about?
Tom Horton wrote: "I don't see how placing another piece of play equipment on the riverside site will serve as a beacon for anti-social behaviour and disturbance to current users, any more than any other recent developments."
Arrrrr! A skateboard park is not another piece of playground equipment! Tom obviously has no idea about outdoor skateboard parks. An outdoor skateboard park is made entirely of concrete not metal ramps on tarmac. This is what local skaters have been asking Nathan Desmond for and what the wider skating community regards as a proper outdoor skateboard park. Thankfully I asked Cllr. Desmond if it was in concrete and he said it would be. So we are getting a proper custom formed outdoor skate park made entirely of concrete and not another Borrington Road, like you suggest!
Have I blogged about this?
Check out the Wyre Forest Agenda (wfa.org.uk) to find out!
Interesting, Tom seems to have more information than most, what where these compromises he is talking about?
Tom Horton wrote: "I don't see how placing another piece of play equipment on the riverside site will serve as a beacon for anti-social behaviour and disturbance to current users, any more than any other recent developments."
Arrrrr! A skateboard park is not another piece of playground equipment! Tom obviously has no idea about outdoor skateboard parks. An outdoor skateboard park is made entirely of concrete not metal ramps on tarmac. This is what local skaters have been asking Nathan Desmond for and what the wider skating community regards as a proper outdoor skateboard park. Thankfully I asked Cllr. Desmond if it was in concrete and he said it would be. So we are getting a proper custom formed outdoor skate park made entirely of concrete and not another Borrington Road, like you suggest!
Have I blogged about this?
Check out the Wyre Forest Agenda (wfa.org.uk) to find out!
Tavis Pitt, The Wyre Forest Agenda says...
12:46pm Wed 21 Feb 07
Tom Horton wrote: "The proposed site is the most viable as far as Stourport is concerned, although a compromise in some ways."
Interesting, Tom seems to have more information than most, what where these compromises he is talking about?
Tom Horton wrote: "I don't see how placing another piece of play equipment on the riverside site will serve as a beacon for anti-social behaviour and disturbance to current users, any more than any other recent developments."
Arrrrr! A skateboard park is not another piece of playground equipment! Tom obviously has no idea about outdoor skateboard parks. An outdoor skateboard park is made entirely of concrete not metal ramps on tarmac. This is what local skaters have been asking Nathan Desmond for and what the wider skating community regards as a proper outdoor skateboard park. Thankfully I asked Cllr. Desmond if it was in concrete and he said it would be. So we are getting a proper custom formed outdoor skate park made entirely of concrete and not another Borrington Road, like you suggest!
Have I blogged about this?
Check out the Wyre Forest Agenda (wfa.org.uk) to find out!
Interesting, Tom seems to have more information than most, what where these compromises he is talking about?
Tom Horton wrote: "I don't see how placing another piece of play equipment on the riverside site will serve as a beacon for anti-social behaviour and disturbance to current users, any more than any other recent developments."
Arrrrr! A skateboard park is not another piece of playground equipment! Tom obviously has no idea about outdoor skateboard parks. An outdoor skateboard park is made entirely of concrete not metal ramps on tarmac. This is what local skaters have been asking Nathan Desmond for and what the wider skating community regards as a proper outdoor skateboard park. Thankfully I asked Cllr. Desmond if it was in concrete and he said it would be. So we are getting a proper custom formed outdoor skate park made entirely of concrete and not another Borrington Road, like you suggest!
Have I blogged about this?
Check out the Wyre Forest Agenda (wfa.org.uk) to find out!
Tom Horton, says...
11:08pm Wed 21 Feb 07
Hey Tavis, please stop stirring it. I don't appriciate being taken out of context to support your irrelevant points (i was making point about percieved anti-social behaviour, not the construct of the park). I'm not going to get into a cleverly worded "political" style debate with you. Having just read your comment I feel like I've just read a scandal about myself in the Sun.
Rather than putting me down, could you please put your efforts into helping to realise this project by trying to help solve the issues you raise.
I know an awfull lot about skateparks having been an active skateboarder for over 7 years, and have been heavily involved with efforts to get facilities for stourport and the wyre forest for nearly as long. So please do not mistake me for somebody with no authority on this subject.
We really need the support of people like you, not the critism that seems to come so eaily.
Please help us by doing something productive.
If you really do feel that the riveside is completely inappropriate, help us to get the location moved to somewhere more suited such as the memorial park.
Again I urge people to calm down, and take some perspective on things. This really isn't the end of the world everybody is making it out to be.
Rather than putting me down, could you please put your efforts into helping to realise this project by trying to help solve the issues you raise.
I know an awfull lot about skateparks having been an active skateboarder for over 7 years, and have been heavily involved with efforts to get facilities for stourport and the wyre forest for nearly as long. So please do not mistake me for somebody with no authority on this subject.
We really need the support of people like you, not the critism that seems to come so eaily.
Please help us by doing something productive.
If you really do feel that the riveside is completely inappropriate, help us to get the location moved to somewhere more suited such as the memorial park.
Again I urge people to calm down, and take some perspective on things. This really isn't the end of the world everybody is making it out to be.
Tom Horton, says...
11:08pm Wed 21 Feb 07
Hey Tavis, please stop stirring it. I don't appriciate being taken out of context to support your irrelevant points (i was making point about percieved anti-social behaviour, not the construct of the park). I'm not going to get into a cleverly worded "political" style debate with you. Having just read your comment I feel like I've just read a scandal about myself in the Sun.
Rather than putting me down, could you please put your efforts into helping to realise this project by trying to help solve the issues you raise.
I know an awfull lot about skateparks having been an active skateboarder for over 7 years, and have been heavily involved with efforts to get facilities for stourport and the wyre forest for nearly as long. So please do not mistake me for somebody with no authority on this subject.
We really need the support of people like you, not the critism that seems to come so eaily.
Please help us by doing something productive.
If you really do feel that the riveside is completely inappropriate, help us to get the location moved to somewhere more suited such as the memorial park.
Again I urge people to calm down, and take some perspective on things. This really isn't the end of the world everybody is making it out to be.
Rather than putting me down, could you please put your efforts into helping to realise this project by trying to help solve the issues you raise.
I know an awfull lot about skateparks having been an active skateboarder for over 7 years, and have been heavily involved with efforts to get facilities for stourport and the wyre forest for nearly as long. So please do not mistake me for somebody with no authority on this subject.
We really need the support of people like you, not the critism that seems to come so eaily.
Please help us by doing something productive.
If you really do feel that the riveside is completely inappropriate, help us to get the location moved to somewhere more suited such as the memorial park.
Again I urge people to calm down, and take some perspective on things. This really isn't the end of the world everybody is making it out to be.
Tom Horton, says...
11:08pm Wed 21 Feb 07
Hey Tavis, please stop stirring it. I don't appriciate being taken out of context to support your irrelevant points (i was making point about percieved anti-social behaviour, not the construct of the park). I'm not going to get into a cleverly worded "political" style debate with you. Having just read your comment I feel like I've just read a scandal about myself in the Sun.
Rather than putting me down, could you please put your efforts into helping to realise this project by trying to help solve the issues you raise.
I know an awfull lot about skateparks having been an active skateboarder for over 7 years, and have been heavily involved with efforts to get facilities for stourport and the wyre forest for nearly as long. So please do not mistake me for somebody with no authority on this subject.
We really need the support of people like you, not the critism that seems to come so eaily.
Please help us by doing something productive.
If you really do feel that the riveside is completely inappropriate, help us to get the location moved to somewhere more suited such as the memorial park.
Again I urge people to calm down, and take some perspective on things. This really isn't the end of the world everybody is making it out to be.
Rather than putting me down, could you please put your efforts into helping to realise this project by trying to help solve the issues you raise.
I know an awfull lot about skateparks having been an active skateboarder for over 7 years, and have been heavily involved with efforts to get facilities for stourport and the wyre forest for nearly as long. So please do not mistake me for somebody with no authority on this subject.
We really need the support of people like you, not the critism that seems to come so eaily.
Please help us by doing something productive.
If you really do feel that the riveside is completely inappropriate, help us to get the location moved to somewhere more suited such as the memorial park.
Again I urge people to calm down, and take some perspective on things. This really isn't the end of the world everybody is making it out to be.
scott barratt (basher), stourport-on-seven says...
11:45pm Wed 21 Feb 07
this will be perfect for families ..
think of it.... families will be able to have the chance to watch there children do some skateing
there wont be any people skateing around the town and getting warned by the police
so in all this would be amazing place to actually put the skatepark
think of it.... families will be able to have the chance to watch there children do some skateing
there wont be any people skateing around the town and getting warned by the police
so in all this would be amazing place to actually put the skatepark
scott barratt (basher), stourport-on-seven says...
11:45pm Wed 21 Feb 07
this will be perfect for families ..
think of it.... families will be able to have the chance to watch there children do some skateing
there wont be any people skateing around the town and getting warned by the police
so in all this would be amazing place to actually put the skatepark
think of it.... families will be able to have the chance to watch there children do some skateing
there wont be any people skateing around the town and getting warned by the police
so in all this would be amazing place to actually put the skatepark
scott barratt (basher), stourport-on-seven says...
11:45pm Wed 21 Feb 07
this will be perfect for families ..
think of it.... families will be able to have the chance to watch there children do some skateing
there wont be any people skateing around the town and getting warned by the police
so in all this would be amazing place to actually put the skatepark
think of it.... families will be able to have the chance to watch there children do some skateing
there wont be any people skateing around the town and getting warned by the police
so in all this would be amazing place to actually put the skatepark
tony minola, stourport says...
11:51pm Wed 21 Feb 07
I strongly disagree with the views of tavis pit who seems to be talking about a subject about which he/she has little or no understanding.
tony minola, stourport says...
11:51pm Wed 21 Feb 07
I strongly disagree with the views of tavis pit who seems to be talking about a subject about which he/she has little or no understanding.
tony minola, stourport says...
11:51pm Wed 21 Feb 07
I strongly disagree with the views of tavis pit who seems to be talking about a subject about which he/she has little or no understanding.
Barry Bennet, stourport says...
12:23am Thu 22 Feb 07
Tavis you seem to have no understanding what-so-ever of what you are talking about. How can you relate a perfectly sensible suggestion about the viability of putting a skatepark on the riverside to the type of building materials that will be used to construct it.
please refrain from using this debate as a vehicle for your childish ego.
please refrain from using this debate as a vehicle for your childish ego.
Barry Bennet, stourport says...
12:23am Thu 22 Feb 07
Tavis you seem to have no understanding what-so-ever of what you are talking about. How can you relate a perfectly sensible suggestion about the viability of putting a skatepark on the riverside to the type of building materials that will be used to construct it.
please refrain from using this debate as a vehicle for your childish ego.
please refrain from using this debate as a vehicle for your childish ego.
Barry Bennet, stourport says...
12:23am Thu 22 Feb 07
Tavis you seem to have no understanding what-so-ever of what you are talking about. How can you relate a perfectly sensible suggestion about the viability of putting a skatepark on the riverside to the type of building materials that will be used to construct it.
please refrain from using this debate as a vehicle for your childish ego.
please refrain from using this debate as a vehicle for your childish ego.
matt, burlish park stourport says...
12:28am Thu 22 Feb 07
I have been involved in trying to get a skatepark in this town for almost ten years, during which time i have seen possible skateparks come and go on a number of occasions due to small minded, outdated and frankly biased views of a few people who happen to have power over such projects. Nathan desmond should be given credit for the work he is doing, not only on this project but on many others in the region and for finally standing up for what the people in this area want. As for the issue of the whereabouts of the skatepark i think the riverside is the only feasible option and this location has my full backing. In reply to tavis pitts points on the disadvantages of this location i would say this.
If the skatepark is underwater for a few days then so be it. This is much better than there being no skatepark at all, which i think will be the case if this location is not approved. Secondly do you really think this will lead to interference with familys and others enjoying the riverside? I belive the skatepark will give young people something to focus their attention and energy on and keep them away from anti social behaviour such as interfering with familys enjoying the riverside. Granted there will always be a few trouble makers but this will be the case whatver that piece of land is used for. Moreover the location is no less acessable for emergency services as a skatepark than it would be if it were used as it has been previously for a bouncy castle. At least the skatepark would provide a service all year round for the people of this town (minus a few days when it might be underwater) where as the bouncy castle only comes to town on a handfull of days each summer. Putting the skatepark in a location out of way will only encourage the behaviour none of us want to see.
If the skatepark is underwater for a few days then so be it. This is much better than there being no skatepark at all, which i think will be the case if this location is not approved. Secondly do you really think this will lead to interference with familys and others enjoying the riverside? I belive the skatepark will give young people something to focus their attention and energy on and keep them away from anti social behaviour such as interfering with familys enjoying the riverside. Granted there will always be a few trouble makers but this will be the case whatver that piece of land is used for. Moreover the location is no less acessable for emergency services as a skatepark than it would be if it were used as it has been previously for a bouncy castle. At least the skatepark would provide a service all year round for the people of this town (minus a few days when it might be underwater) where as the bouncy castle only comes to town on a handfull of days each summer. Putting the skatepark in a location out of way will only encourage the behaviour none of us want to see.
matt, burlish park stourport says...
12:28am Thu 22 Feb 07
I have been involved in trying to get a skatepark in this town for almost ten years, during which time i have seen possible skateparks come and go on a number of occasions due to small minded, outdated and frankly biased views of a few people who happen to have power over such projects. Nathan desmond should be given credit for the work he is doing, not only on this project but on many others in the region and for finally standing up for what the people in this area want. As for the issue of the whereabouts of the skatepark i think the riverside is the only feasible option and this location has my full backing. In reply to tavis pitts points on the disadvantages of this location i would say this.
If the skatepark is underwater for a few days then so be it. This is much better than there being no skatepark at all, which i think will be the case if this location is not approved. Secondly do you really think this will lead to interference with familys and others enjoying the riverside? I belive the skatepark will give young people something to focus their attention and energy on and keep them away from anti social behaviour such as interfering with familys enjoying the riverside. Granted there will always be a few trouble makers but this will be the case whatver that piece of land is used for. Moreover the location is no less acessable for emergency services as a skatepark than it would be if it were used as it has been previously for a bouncy castle. At least the skatepark would provide a service all year round for the people of this town (minus a few days when it might be underwater) where as the bouncy castle only comes to town on a handfull of days each summer. Putting the skatepark in a location out of way will only encourage the behaviour none of us want to see.
If the skatepark is underwater for a few days then so be it. This is much better than there being no skatepark at all, which i think will be the case if this location is not approved. Secondly do you really think this will lead to interference with familys and others enjoying the riverside? I belive the skatepark will give young people something to focus their attention and energy on and keep them away from anti social behaviour such as interfering with familys enjoying the riverside. Granted there will always be a few trouble makers but this will be the case whatver that piece of land is used for. Moreover the location is no less acessable for emergency services as a skatepark than it would be if it were used as it has been previously for a bouncy castle. At least the skatepark would provide a service all year round for the people of this town (minus a few days when it might be underwater) where as the bouncy castle only comes to town on a handfull of days each summer. Putting the skatepark in a location out of way will only encourage the behaviour none of us want to see.
matt, burlish park stourport says...
12:28am Thu 22 Feb 07
I have been involved in trying to get a skatepark in this town for almost ten years, during which time i have seen possible skateparks come and go on a number of occasions due to small minded, outdated and frankly biased views of a few people who happen to have power over such projects. Nathan desmond should be given credit for the work he is doing, not only on this project but on many others in the region and for finally standing up for what the people in this area want. As for the issue of the whereabouts of the skatepark i think the riverside is the only feasible option and this location has my full backing. In reply to tavis pitts points on the disadvantages of this location i would say this.
If the skatepark is underwater for a few days then so be it. This is much better than there being no skatepark at all, which i think will be the case if this location is not approved. Secondly do you really think this will lead to interference with familys and others enjoying the riverside? I belive the skatepark will give young people something to focus their attention and energy on and keep them away from anti social behaviour such as interfering with familys enjoying the riverside. Granted there will always be a few trouble makers but this will be the case whatver that piece of land is used for. Moreover the location is no less acessable for emergency services as a skatepark than it would be if it were used as it has been previously for a bouncy castle. At least the skatepark would provide a service all year round for the people of this town (minus a few days when it might be underwater) where as the bouncy castle only comes to town on a handfull of days each summer. Putting the skatepark in a location out of way will only encourage the behaviour none of us want to see.
If the skatepark is underwater for a few days then so be it. This is much better than there being no skatepark at all, which i think will be the case if this location is not approved. Secondly do you really think this will lead to interference with familys and others enjoying the riverside? I belive the skatepark will give young people something to focus their attention and energy on and keep them away from anti social behaviour such as interfering with familys enjoying the riverside. Granted there will always be a few trouble makers but this will be the case whatver that piece of land is used for. Moreover the location is no less acessable for emergency services as a skatepark than it would be if it were used as it has been previously for a bouncy castle. At least the skatepark would provide a service all year round for the people of this town (minus a few days when it might be underwater) where as the bouncy castle only comes to town on a handfull of days each summer. Putting the skatepark in a location out of way will only encourage the behaviour none of us want to see.
Milo Brennan, Stourbridge says...
11:03am Thu 22 Feb 07
Something I feel that needs to be highlighted is that skateparks and the sports/activities they promote are fundamentally good things. Teenagers should be encouraged to make and participate in their own form of productive fun. Skateboarding (and bmxing etc.) are athletic pursuits. They keep people fit and active and encourage creativity and calculated risk-taking.
To adopt the attitude that Stourport town councillor, David Little takes in that
"Teenagers can be rowdy It needs to be tucked away." can only succeed in segregating that age group in the population which are already contstantly being sniped at for being the fattest/laziest/stupidest/rudest (delete as appropriate) generation since records began. These people need to feel part of a community, to feel that their town wants them to continue enjoying hobbies which they enjoy and to be able to do so with all members of that community. To hide them away and, thusly making them outlaws, does little to promote a feeling of trust and respect between the young and the powers-that-be.
As the proposed site already plays host to a play area I don't see why the integration of another should be deemed so problematic.
Claire Moore states that "I don't think it should be next to the kids' playground. It is a nice area for families to picnic and play." Does she mean by this that between the ages of childhood and parenthood there is to be a void where those going through puberty must try to have fun out of sight?
Riverside Meadows is a beautiful location. I think to deny the youth of Stourport the chance to participate in their favourite hobbies in such a place would be a mistake.
To adopt the attitude that Stourport town councillor, David Little takes in that
"Teenagers can be rowdy It needs to be tucked away." can only succeed in segregating that age group in the population which are already contstantly being sniped at for being the fattest/laziest/stupidest/rudest (delete as appropriate) generation since records began. These people need to feel part of a community, to feel that their town wants them to continue enjoying hobbies which they enjoy and to be able to do so with all members of that community. To hide them away and, thusly making them outlaws, does little to promote a feeling of trust and respect between the young and the powers-that-be.
As the proposed site already plays host to a play area I don't see why the integration of another should be deemed so problematic.
Claire Moore states that "I don't think it should be next to the kids' playground. It is a nice area for families to picnic and play." Does she mean by this that between the ages of childhood and parenthood there is to be a void where those going through puberty must try to have fun out of sight?
Riverside Meadows is a beautiful location. I think to deny the youth of Stourport the chance to participate in their favourite hobbies in such a place would be a mistake.
Milo Brennan, Stourbridge says...
11:03am Thu 22 Feb 07
Something I feel that needs to be highlighted is that skateparks and the sports/activities they promote are fundamentally good things. Teenagers should be encouraged to make and participate in their own form of productive fun. Skateboarding (and bmxing etc.) are athletic pursuits. They keep people fit and active and encourage creativity and calculated risk-taking.
To adopt the attitude that Stourport town councillor, David Little takes in that
"Teenagers can be rowdy It needs to be tucked away." can only succeed in segregating that age group in the population which are already contstantly being sniped at for being the fattest/laziest/stupidest/rudest (delete as appropriate) generation since records began. These people need to feel part of a community, to feel that their town wants them to continue enjoying hobbies which they enjoy and to be able to do so with all members of that community. To hide them away and, thusly making them outlaws, does little to promote a feeling of trust and respect between the young and the powers-that-be.
As the proposed site already plays host to a play area I don't see why the integration of another should be deemed so problematic.
Claire Moore states that "I don't think it should be next to the kids' playground. It is a nice area for families to picnic and play." Does she mean by this that between the ages of childhood and parenthood there is to be a void where those going through puberty must try to have fun out of sight?
Riverside Meadows is a beautiful location. I think to deny the youth of Stourport the chance to participate in their favourite hobbies in such a place would be a mistake.
To adopt the attitude that Stourport town councillor, David Little takes in that
"Teenagers can be rowdy It needs to be tucked away." can only succeed in segregating that age group in the population which are already contstantly being sniped at for being the fattest/laziest/stupidest/rudest (delete as appropriate) generation since records began. These people need to feel part of a community, to feel that their town wants them to continue enjoying hobbies which they enjoy and to be able to do so with all members of that community. To hide them away and, thusly making them outlaws, does little to promote a feeling of trust and respect between the young and the powers-that-be.
As the proposed site already plays host to a play area I don't see why the integration of another should be deemed so problematic.
Claire Moore states that "I don't think it should be next to the kids' playground. It is a nice area for families to picnic and play." Does she mean by this that between the ages of childhood and parenthood there is to be a void where those going through puberty must try to have fun out of sight?
Riverside Meadows is a beautiful location. I think to deny the youth of Stourport the chance to participate in their favourite hobbies in such a place would be a mistake.
Milo Brennan, Stourbridge says...
11:03am Thu 22 Feb 07
Something I feel that needs to be highlighted is that skateparks and the sports/activities they promote are fundamentally good things. Teenagers should be encouraged to make and participate in their own form of productive fun. Skateboarding (and bmxing etc.) are athletic pursuits. They keep people fit and active and encourage creativity and calculated risk-taking.
To adopt the attitude that Stourport town councillor, David Little takes in that
"Teenagers can be rowdy It needs to be tucked away." can only succeed in segregating that age group in the population which are already contstantly being sniped at for being the fattest/laziest/stupidest/rudest (delete as appropriate) generation since records began. These people need to feel part of a community, to feel that their town wants them to continue enjoying hobbies which they enjoy and to be able to do so with all members of that community. To hide them away and, thusly making them outlaws, does little to promote a feeling of trust and respect between the young and the powers-that-be.
As the proposed site already plays host to a play area I don't see why the integration of another should be deemed so problematic.
Claire Moore states that "I don't think it should be next to the kids' playground. It is a nice area for families to picnic and play." Does she mean by this that between the ages of childhood and parenthood there is to be a void where those going through puberty must try to have fun out of sight?
Riverside Meadows is a beautiful location. I think to deny the youth of Stourport the chance to participate in their favourite hobbies in such a place would be a mistake.
To adopt the attitude that Stourport town councillor, David Little takes in that
"Teenagers can be rowdy It needs to be tucked away." can only succeed in segregating that age group in the population which are already contstantly being sniped at for being the fattest/laziest/stupidest/rudest (delete as appropriate) generation since records began. These people need to feel part of a community, to feel that their town wants them to continue enjoying hobbies which they enjoy and to be able to do so with all members of that community. To hide them away and, thusly making them outlaws, does little to promote a feeling of trust and respect between the young and the powers-that-be.
As the proposed site already plays host to a play area I don't see why the integration of another should be deemed so problematic.
Claire Moore states that "I don't think it should be next to the kids' playground. It is a nice area for families to picnic and play." Does she mean by this that between the ages of childhood and parenthood there is to be a void where those going through puberty must try to have fun out of sight?
Riverside Meadows is a beautiful location. I think to deny the youth of Stourport the chance to participate in their favourite hobbies in such a place would be a mistake.
Tom Horton, says...
1:33pm Thu 22 Feb 07
Tavis Pitt wrote:
Arrr! I don't have more information than most, Tavis obviously has no idea about what he is trying to say. Surely the comprimise in location assiociated with the Riverside are the whole basis for your dispute. You even go as far to list the advantages and disadvantages (the sum of which is generally considered to be a comprimise).
Interesting to see that Tavis has less information than most on his own arguements.
Surely you are implying that the riverside is a comprimise, so to then claim ignorance as to why the location may be a comprimise is beyond me.
pheeeeew, thats all that cleared up then. Can we have a skatepark now please?
Interesting, Tom seems to have more information than most, what where these compromises he is talking about?
Arrr! I don't have more information than most, Tavis obviously has no idea about what he is trying to say. Surely the comprimise in location assiociated with the Riverside are the whole basis for your dispute. You even go as far to list the advantages and disadvantages (the sum of which is generally considered to be a comprimise).
Advantages:
(1) Less anti-social behaviour because in the public view
Disadvantages:
(1) On the flood plain (I suppose this could be an advantage for wind surfers)
(2) Interference with families at the pool, the play area, the promenade and ice cream stall
(3) Very limited access for emergency services
(4) The space was already taken up (successfully?) by the bouncy castle in summer
Interesting to see that Tavis has less information than most on his own arguements.
Surely you are implying that the riverside is a comprimise, so to then claim ignorance as to why the location may be a comprimise is beyond me.
pheeeeew, thats all that cleared up then. Can we have a skatepark now please?
Tom Horton, says...
1:33pm Thu 22 Feb 07
Tavis Pitt wrote:
Arrr! I don't have more information than most, Tavis obviously has no idea about what he is trying to say. Surely the comprimise in location assiociated with the Riverside are the whole basis for your dispute. You even go as far to list the advantages and disadvantages (the sum of which is generally considered to be a comprimise).
Interesting to see that Tavis has less information than most on his own arguements.
Surely you are implying that the riverside is a comprimise, so to then claim ignorance as to why the location may be a comprimise is beyond me.
pheeeeew, thats all that cleared up then. Can we have a skatepark now please?
Interesting, Tom seems to have more information than most, what where these compromises he is talking about?
Arrr! I don't have more information than most, Tavis obviously has no idea about what he is trying to say. Surely the comprimise in location assiociated with the Riverside are the whole basis for your dispute. You even go as far to list the advantages and disadvantages (the sum of which is generally considered to be a comprimise).
Advantages:
(1) Less anti-social behaviour because in the public view
Disadvantages:
(1) On the flood plain (I suppose this could be an advantage for wind surfers)
(2) Interference with families at the pool, the play area, the promenade and ice cream stall
(3) Very limited access for emergency services
(4) The space was already taken up (successfully?) by the bouncy castle in summer
Interesting to see that Tavis has less information than most on his own arguements.
Surely you are implying that the riverside is a comprimise, so to then claim ignorance as to why the location may be a comprimise is beyond me.
pheeeeew, thats all that cleared up then. Can we have a skatepark now please?
Tom Horton, says...
1:33pm Thu 22 Feb 07
Tavis Pitt wrote:
Arrr! I don't have more information than most, Tavis obviously has no idea about what he is trying to say. Surely the comprimise in location assiociated with the Riverside are the whole basis for your dispute. You even go as far to list the advantages and disadvantages (the sum of which is generally considered to be a comprimise).
Interesting to see that Tavis has less information than most on his own arguements.
Surely you are implying that the riverside is a comprimise, so to then claim ignorance as to why the location may be a comprimise is beyond me.
pheeeeew, thats all that cleared up then. Can we have a skatepark now please?
Interesting, Tom seems to have more information than most, what where these compromises he is talking about?
Arrr! I don't have more information than most, Tavis obviously has no idea about what he is trying to say. Surely the comprimise in location assiociated with the Riverside are the whole basis for your dispute. You even go as far to list the advantages and disadvantages (the sum of which is generally considered to be a comprimise).
Advantages:
(1) Less anti-social behaviour because in the public view
Disadvantages:
(1) On the flood plain (I suppose this could be an advantage for wind surfers)
(2) Interference with families at the pool, the play area, the promenade and ice cream stall
(3) Very limited access for emergency services
(4) The space was already taken up (successfully?) by the bouncy castle in summer
Interesting to see that Tavis has less information than most on his own arguements.
Surely you are implying that the riverside is a comprimise, so to then claim ignorance as to why the location may be a comprimise is beyond me.
pheeeeew, thats all that cleared up then. Can we have a skatepark now please?
Christine Tellier, says...
4:19pm Thu 22 Feb 07
Tavis, I feel your ill informed putdowns of Tom Horton's understanding of skateparks quite inappropriate.
I attended one of the meetings that took place about the skatepark and it was due to Tom's insistance that the skatepark should only be made out of concrete that this will be carried out.
Perhaps Tavis you should consider spending less time insulting peoples knowledge of a subject they are passionate about and more time trying to build relations and start looking at the bigger picture - actually helping these kids out.
I attended one of the meetings that took place about the skatepark and it was due to Tom's insistance that the skatepark should only be made out of concrete that this will be carried out.
Perhaps Tavis you should consider spending less time insulting peoples knowledge of a subject they are passionate about and more time trying to build relations and start looking at the bigger picture - actually helping these kids out.
Christine Tellier, says...
4:19pm Thu 22 Feb 07
Tavis, I feel your ill informed putdowns of Tom Horton's understanding of skateparks quite inappropriate.
I attended one of the meetings that took place about the skatepark and it was due to Tom's insistance that the skatepark should only be made out of concrete that this will be carried out.
Perhaps Tavis you should consider spending less time insulting peoples knowledge of a subject they are passionate about and more time trying to build relations and start looking at the bigger picture - actually helping these kids out.
I attended one of the meetings that took place about the skatepark and it was due to Tom's insistance that the skatepark should only be made out of concrete that this will be carried out.
Perhaps Tavis you should consider spending less time insulting peoples knowledge of a subject they are passionate about and more time trying to build relations and start looking at the bigger picture - actually helping these kids out.
Christine Tellier, says...
4:19pm Thu 22 Feb 07
Tavis, I feel your ill informed putdowns of Tom Horton's understanding of skateparks quite inappropriate.
I attended one of the meetings that took place about the skatepark and it was due to Tom's insistance that the skatepark should only be made out of concrete that this will be carried out.
Perhaps Tavis you should consider spending less time insulting peoples knowledge of a subject they are passionate about and more time trying to build relations and start looking at the bigger picture - actually helping these kids out.
I attended one of the meetings that took place about the skatepark and it was due to Tom's insistance that the skatepark should only be made out of concrete that this will be carried out.
Perhaps Tavis you should consider spending less time insulting peoples knowledge of a subject they are passionate about and more time trying to build relations and start looking at the bigger picture - actually helping these kids out.
em congrave, stourport says...
4:27pm Thu 22 Feb 07
if the design that we chose is used u can c that it will b used not only by experienced skaters/bmxers but it will b a good for people wishing to learn or get in to this scence, i belive this would draw more people into the sport in doing so giving more young people something to wich we know is good for all of us in the end
em congrave, stourport says...
4:27pm Thu 22 Feb 07
if the design that we chose is used u can c that it will b used not only by experienced skaters/bmxers but it will b a good for people wishing to learn or get in to this scence, i belive this would draw more people into the sport in doing so giving more young people something to wich we know is good for all of us in the end
em congrave, stourport says...
4:27pm Thu 22 Feb 07
if the design that we chose is used u can c that it will b used not only by experienced skaters/bmxers but it will b a good for people wishing to learn or get in to this scence, i belive this would draw more people into the sport in doing so giving more young people something to wich we know is good for all of us in the end
Tavis Pitt, The Wyre Forest Agenda says...
5:46pm Thu 22 Feb 07
Let me be clear:
(1) I want a £90K (perhaps bigger) skateboard park in Wyre Forest and in Stourport is fine by me.
(2) I do not automatically label youths (skaters and non-skaters) as anti-social and skateboard parks are magnet for anti-social behaviour.
(3) I want the skateboard park to be made entirely out of concrete.
(4) I'm really very much divided on the location, skating experts recommend a central and open location, while most people who know Stourport think the riverside location is irresponsible (44% against the riverside, 43% for riverside). Out of all this site (2) (see www.wfa.org.uk) (moved away from the river) seems the ideal place, especially to integrate the park with the carnival (a brilliant idea).
Some above comments question my experience of skateboarding. Although I do not skateboard now, I was skateboarding at the Safari Park over 10 years ago. I know the difference between a good skateboard park (like Dartford) and a bad one (like Borrington Road). However, don't take my word for it, I asked the professional skateboard community for their opinion of the proposed Stourport Skatepark:
"Good on ya' for actually seeking advice from people who seem like they might know what they're talking about (and some of us do!). This makes an extremely refreshing change from the usual attitude of decision makers who are either led by the nose to the bank by a playground company or ask a load of clueless kids who have never been to a decent skatepark.
99.99% of the time the result in either case is something no self-respecting skater would go within a mile of."
...
"There are many companies who profess to be skatepark 'specialists'. Many of these are playground companies etc who see it as an easy buck and are basically ripping off councils because no-one at the council knows the difference between a good and a bad skatepark. Even supposedly more reputable companies supply ramps with unsuitable surfaces that skaters hate (metal/coated metal) and put them on tarmac, which should never be used as a base (it melts in summer, is slow and wears quickly) smooth concrete is the only option."
I have commented other professional skateboarders views on my weblog The Wyre Forest Agenda, read them for yourself.
Tom: You have to be very careful what you say, so far every skate park from the WFDC has been metal ramps on tarmac and treated as 'playground' equipment. Nobody wants yet another one at Stourport. We need an all concrete park at site (2).
Have I blogged about this?
Check out the Wyre Forest Agenda (www.wfa.org.uk) to find out!
(1) I want a £90K (perhaps bigger) skateboard park in Wyre Forest and in Stourport is fine by me.
(2) I do not automatically label youths (skaters and non-skaters) as anti-social and skateboard parks are magnet for anti-social behaviour.
(3) I want the skateboard park to be made entirely out of concrete.
(4) I'm really very much divided on the location, skating experts recommend a central and open location, while most people who know Stourport think the riverside location is irresponsible (44% against the riverside, 43% for riverside). Out of all this site (2) (see www.wfa.org.uk) (moved away from the river) seems the ideal place, especially to integrate the park with the carnival (a brilliant idea).
Some above comments question my experience of skateboarding. Although I do not skateboard now, I was skateboarding at the Safari Park over 10 years ago. I know the difference between a good skateboard park (like Dartford) and a bad one (like Borrington Road). However, don't take my word for it, I asked the professional skateboard community for their opinion of the proposed Stourport Skatepark:
"Good on ya' for actually seeking advice from people who seem like they might know what they're talking about (and some of us do!). This makes an extremely refreshing change from the usual attitude of decision makers who are either led by the nose to the bank by a playground company or ask a load of clueless kids who have never been to a decent skatepark.
99.99% of the time the result in either case is something no self-respecting skater would go within a mile of."
...
"There are many companies who profess to be skatepark 'specialists'. Many of these are playground companies etc who see it as an easy buck and are basically ripping off councils because no-one at the council knows the difference between a good and a bad skatepark. Even supposedly more reputable companies supply ramps with unsuitable surfaces that skaters hate (metal/coated metal) and put them on tarmac, which should never be used as a base (it melts in summer, is slow and wears quickly) smooth concrete is the only option."
I have commented other professional skateboarders views on my weblog The Wyre Forest Agenda, read them for yourself.
Tom: You have to be very careful what you say, so far every skate park from the WFDC has been metal ramps on tarmac and treated as 'playground' equipment. Nobody wants yet another one at Stourport. We need an all concrete park at site (2).
Have I blogged about this?
Check out the Wyre Forest Agenda (www.wfa.org.uk) to find out!
Tavis Pitt, The Wyre Forest Agenda says...
5:46pm Thu 22 Feb 07
Let me be clear:
(1) I want a £90K (perhaps bigger) skateboard park in Wyre Forest and in Stourport is fine by me.
(2) I do not automatically label youths (skaters and non-skaters) as anti-social and skateboard parks are magnet for anti-social behaviour.
(3) I want the skateboard park to be made entirely out of concrete.
(4) I'm really very much divided on the location, skating experts recommend a central and open location, while most people who know Stourport think the riverside location is irresponsible (44% against the riverside, 43% for riverside). Out of all this site (2) (see www.wfa.org.uk) (moved away from the river) seems the ideal place, especially to integrate the park with the carnival (a brilliant idea).
Some above comments question my experience of skateboarding. Although I do not skateboard now, I was skateboarding at the Safari Park over 10 years ago. I know the difference between a good skateboard park (like Dartford) and a bad one (like Borrington Road). However, don't take my word for it, I asked the professional skateboard community for their opinion of the proposed Stourport Skatepark:
"Good on ya' for actually seeking advice from people who seem like they might know what they're talking about (and some of us do!). This makes an extremely refreshing change from the usual attitude of decision makers who are either led by the nose to the bank by a playground company or ask a load of clueless kids who have never been to a decent skatepark.
99.99% of the time the result in either case is something no self-respecting skater would go within a mile of."
...
"There are many companies who profess to be skatepark 'specialists'. Many of these are playground companies etc who see it as an easy buck and are basically ripping off councils because no-one at the council knows the difference between a good and a bad skatepark. Even supposedly more reputable companies supply ramps with unsuitable surfaces that skaters hate (metal/coated metal) and put them on tarmac, which should never be used as a base (it melts in summer, is slow and wears quickly) smooth concrete is the only option."
I have commented other professional skateboarders views on my weblog The Wyre Forest Agenda, read them for yourself.
Tom: You have to be very careful what you say, so far every skate park from the WFDC has been metal ramps on tarmac and treated as 'playground' equipment. Nobody wants yet another one at Stourport. We need an all concrete park at site (2).
Have I blogged about this?
Check out the Wyre Forest Agenda (www.wfa.org.uk) to find out!
(1) I want a £90K (perhaps bigger) skateboard park in Wyre Forest and in Stourport is fine by me.
(2) I do not automatically label youths (skaters and non-skaters) as anti-social and skateboard parks are magnet for anti-social behaviour.
(3) I want the skateboard park to be made entirely out of concrete.
(4) I'm really very much divided on the location, skating experts recommend a central and open location, while most people who know Stourport think the riverside location is irresponsible (44% against the riverside, 43% for riverside). Out of all this site (2) (see www.wfa.org.uk) (moved away from the river) seems the ideal place, especially to integrate the park with the carnival (a brilliant idea).
Some above comments question my experience of skateboarding. Although I do not skateboard now, I was skateboarding at the Safari Park over 10 years ago. I know the difference between a good skateboard park (like Dartford) and a bad one (like Borrington Road). However, don't take my word for it, I asked the professional skateboard community for their opinion of the proposed Stourport Skatepark:
"Good on ya' for actually seeking advice from people who seem like they might know what they're talking about (and some of us do!). This makes an extremely refreshing change from the usual attitude of decision makers who are either led by the nose to the bank by a playground company or ask a load of clueless kids who have never been to a decent skatepark.
99.99% of the time the result in either case is something no self-respecting skater would go within a mile of."
...
"There are many companies who profess to be skatepark 'specialists'. Many of these are playground companies etc who see it as an easy buck and are basically ripping off councils because no-one at the council knows the difference between a good and a bad skatepark. Even supposedly more reputable companies supply ramps with unsuitable surfaces that skaters hate (metal/coated metal) and put them on tarmac, which should never be used as a base (it melts in summer, is slow and wears quickly) smooth concrete is the only option."
I have commented other professional skateboarders views on my weblog The Wyre Forest Agenda, read them for yourself.
Tom: You have to be very careful what you say, so far every skate park from the WFDC has been metal ramps on tarmac and treated as 'playground' equipment. Nobody wants yet another one at Stourport. We need an all concrete park at site (2).
Have I blogged about this?
Check out the Wyre Forest Agenda (www.wfa.org.uk) to find out!
Tavis Pitt, The Wyre Forest Agenda says...
5:46pm Thu 22 Feb 07
Let me be clear:
(1) I want a £90K (perhaps bigger) skateboard park in Wyre Forest and in Stourport is fine by me.
(2) I do not automatically label youths (skaters and non-skaters) as anti-social and skateboard parks are magnet for anti-social behaviour.
(3) I want the skateboard park to be made entirely out of concrete.
(4) I'm really very much divided on the location, skating experts recommend a central and open location, while most people who know Stourport think the riverside location is irresponsible (44% against the riverside, 43% for riverside). Out of all this site (2) (see www.wfa.org.uk) (moved away from the river) seems the ideal place, especially to integrate the park with the carnival (a brilliant idea).
Some above comments question my experience of skateboarding. Although I do not skateboard now, I was skateboarding at the Safari Park over 10 years ago. I know the difference between a good skateboard park (like Dartford) and a bad one (like Borrington Road). However, don't take my word for it, I asked the professional skateboard community for their opinion of the proposed Stourport Skatepark:
"Good on ya' for actually seeking advice from people who seem like they might know what they're talking about (and some of us do!). This makes an extremely refreshing change from the usual attitude of decision makers who are either led by the nose to the bank by a playground company or ask a load of clueless kids who have never been to a decent skatepark.
99.99% of the time the result in either case is something no self-respecting skater would go within a mile of."
...
"There are many companies who profess to be skatepark 'specialists'. Many of these are playground companies etc who see it as an easy buck and are basically ripping off councils because no-one at the council knows the difference between a good and a bad skatepark. Even supposedly more reputable companies supply ramps with unsuitable surfaces that skaters hate (metal/coated metal) and put them on tarmac, which should never be used as a base (it melts in summer, is slow and wears quickly) smooth concrete is the only option."
I have commented other professional skateboarders views on my weblog The Wyre Forest Agenda, read them for yourself.
Tom: You have to be very careful what you say, so far every skate park from the WFDC has been metal ramps on tarmac and treated as 'playground' equipment. Nobody wants yet another one at Stourport. We need an all concrete park at site (2).
Have I blogged about this?
Check out the Wyre Forest Agenda (www.wfa.org.uk) to find out!
(1) I want a £90K (perhaps bigger) skateboard park in Wyre Forest and in Stourport is fine by me.
(2) I do not automatically label youths (skaters and non-skaters) as anti-social and skateboard parks are magnet for anti-social behaviour.
(3) I want the skateboard park to be made entirely out of concrete.
(4) I'm really very much divided on the location, skating experts recommend a central and open location, while most people who know Stourport think the riverside location is irresponsible (44% against the riverside, 43% for riverside). Out of all this site (2) (see www.wfa.org.uk) (moved away from the river) seems the ideal place, especially to integrate the park with the carnival (a brilliant idea).
Some above comments question my experience of skateboarding. Although I do not skateboard now, I was skateboarding at the Safari Park over 10 years ago. I know the difference between a good skateboard park (like Dartford) and a bad one (like Borrington Road). However, don't take my word for it, I asked the professional skateboard community for their opinion of the proposed Stourport Skatepark:
"Good on ya' for actually seeking advice from people who seem like they might know what they're talking about (and some of us do!). This makes an extremely refreshing change from the usual attitude of decision makers who are either led by the nose to the bank by a playground company or ask a load of clueless kids who have never been to a decent skatepark.
99.99% of the time the result in either case is something no self-respecting skater would go within a mile of."
...
"There are many companies who profess to be skatepark 'specialists'. Many of these are playground companies etc who see it as an easy buck and are basically ripping off councils because no-one at the council knows the difference between a good and a bad skatepark. Even supposedly more reputable companies supply ramps with unsuitable surfaces that skaters hate (metal/coated metal) and put them on tarmac, which should never be used as a base (it melts in summer, is slow and wears quickly) smooth concrete is the only option."
I have commented other professional skateboarders views on my weblog The Wyre Forest Agenda, read them for yourself.
Tom: You have to be very careful what you say, so far every skate park from the WFDC has been metal ramps on tarmac and treated as 'playground' equipment. Nobody wants yet another one at Stourport. We need an all concrete park at site (2).
Have I blogged about this?
Check out the Wyre Forest Agenda (www.wfa.org.uk) to find out!
Tavis Pitt, The Wyre Forest Agenda says...
5:55pm Thu 22 Feb 07
Christine Tellier wrote:
I have been in negotiation with Nathan Desmond with my Street Sports Mentor Programme; this is looking at the bigger picture including more sports that just skateboarding, in-line and BMX freestyle. I will collate my research and propose it fully.
Have I blogged about this?
Check out the Wyre Forest Agenda (www.wfa.org.uk) to find out!
Perhaps Tavis you should consider spending less time insulting peoples knowledge of a subject they are passionate about and more time trying to build relations and start looking at the bigger picture - actually helping these kids out.
I have been in negotiation with Nathan Desmond with my Street Sports Mentor Programme; this is looking at the bigger picture including more sports that just skateboarding, in-line and BMX freestyle. I will collate my research and propose it fully.
Have I blogged about this?
Check out the Wyre Forest Agenda (www.wfa.org.uk) to find out!
Tavis Pitt, The Wyre Forest Agenda says...
5:55pm Thu 22 Feb 07
Christine Tellier wrote:
I have been in negotiation with Nathan Desmond with my Street Sports Mentor Programme; this is looking at the bigger picture including more sports that just skateboarding, in-line and BMX freestyle. I will collate my research and propose it fully.
Have I blogged about this?
Check out the Wyre Forest Agenda (www.wfa.org.uk) to find out!
Perhaps Tavis you should consider spending less time insulting peoples knowledge of a subject they are passionate about and more time trying to build relations and start looking at the bigger picture - actually helping these kids out.
I have been in negotiation with Nathan Desmond with my Street Sports Mentor Programme; this is looking at the bigger picture including more sports that just skateboarding, in-line and BMX freestyle. I will collate my research and propose it fully.
Have I blogged about this?
Check out the Wyre Forest Agenda (www.wfa.org.uk) to find out!
Tavis Pitt, The Wyre Forest Agenda says...
5:55pm Thu 22 Feb 07
Christine Tellier wrote:
I have been in negotiation with Nathan Desmond with my Street Sports Mentor Programme; this is looking at the bigger picture including more sports that just skateboarding, in-line and BMX freestyle. I will collate my research and propose it fully.
Have I blogged about this?
Check out the Wyre Forest Agenda (www.wfa.org.uk) to find out!
Perhaps Tavis you should consider spending less time insulting peoples knowledge of a subject they are passionate about and more time trying to build relations and start looking at the bigger picture - actually helping these kids out.
I have been in negotiation with Nathan Desmond with my Street Sports Mentor Programme; this is looking at the bigger picture including more sports that just skateboarding, in-line and BMX freestyle. I will collate my research and propose it fully.
Have I blogged about this?
Check out the Wyre Forest Agenda (www.wfa.org.uk) to find out!
Tavis Pitt, The Wyre Forest Agenda says...
6:04pm Thu 22 Feb 07
Tom wrote:
I emailed Cllr. John Campion and Cllr. Nathan Desmond asking for the advantages and received no reply. These ‘arguments’ are the result of an analysis of the committee minutes and agendum and the general discourse on the Wyre Forest Agenda. This is an attempt to answer my own question. Funny how no one comes out with more advantages for the riverside than the one I provided.
Have I blogged about this?
Check out the Wyre Forest Agenda (www.wfa.org.uk) to find out!
Interesting to see that Tavis has less information than most on his own arguments.
I emailed Cllr. John Campion and Cllr. Nathan Desmond asking for the advantages and received no reply. These ‘arguments’ are the result of an analysis of the committee minutes and agendum and the general discourse on the Wyre Forest Agenda. This is an attempt to answer my own question. Funny how no one comes out with more advantages for the riverside than the one I provided.
Have I blogged about this?
Check out the Wyre Forest Agenda (www.wfa.org.uk) to find out!
Tavis Pitt, The Wyre Forest Agenda says...
6:04pm Thu 22 Feb 07
Tom wrote:
I emailed Cllr. John Campion and Cllr. Nathan Desmond asking for the advantages and received no reply. These ‘arguments’ are the result of an analysis of the committee minutes and agendum and the general discourse on the Wyre Forest Agenda. This is an attempt to answer my own question. Funny how no one comes out with more advantages for the riverside than the one I provided.
Have I blogged about this?
Check out the Wyre Forest Agenda (www.wfa.org.uk) to find out!
Interesting to see that Tavis has less information than most on his own arguments.
I emailed Cllr. John Campion and Cllr. Nathan Desmond asking for the advantages and received no reply. These ‘arguments’ are the result of an analysis of the committee minutes and agendum and the general discourse on the Wyre Forest Agenda. This is an attempt to answer my own question. Funny how no one comes out with more advantages for the riverside than the one I provided.
Have I blogged about this?
Check out the Wyre Forest Agenda (www.wfa.org.uk) to find out!
Tavis Pitt, The Wyre Forest Agenda says...
6:04pm Thu 22 Feb 07
Tom wrote:
I emailed Cllr. John Campion and Cllr. Nathan Desmond asking for the advantages and received no reply. These ‘arguments’ are the result of an analysis of the committee minutes and agendum and the general discourse on the Wyre Forest Agenda. This is an attempt to answer my own question. Funny how no one comes out with more advantages for the riverside than the one I provided.
Have I blogged about this?
Check out the Wyre Forest Agenda (www.wfa.org.uk) to find out!
Interesting to see that Tavis has less information than most on his own arguments.
I emailed Cllr. John Campion and Cllr. Nathan Desmond asking for the advantages and received no reply. These ‘arguments’ are the result of an analysis of the committee minutes and agendum and the general discourse on the Wyre Forest Agenda. This is an attempt to answer my own question. Funny how no one comes out with more advantages for the riverside than the one I provided.
Have I blogged about this?
Check out the Wyre Forest Agenda (www.wfa.org.uk) to find out!
ben, s-o-s says...
7:46pm Thu 22 Feb 07
It's nice to see this topic being addressed fully, with people expressing their opinions, putting aside bickering, we all agree we need a skatepark and that Stourport would profit from such an attraction not only for the locals but also attracting other users from neighboring areas.
After many years of meetings, signing petitions and generally trying to get a skate facility to be proud of, hopefully were nearly there.
I for one would love to see a larger more spacious facility in a more debatably suitable location (e.g. the memorial park!)
But after several meeting the users and the counselors all came to the conclusion that a concrete park down the river was going to be suitable. Ideally another all year round, risk free and spacious venue would be fantastic, but it's not going to happen, all locations in this town have been explored and a conclusion was drawn on the riverside. (Not perfect but suitable.)
p.s. other pros include:
• A centralised location in stourport, not to far to travel whether your from Burlish or the Walshes.
• Ideal size, scale and materials used for the location and facility (an outdoor skatepark is going to get wet no matter what it’s made of!!!)
• Ideal area for it to be policed and monitored for vandalism, anti social behaviors, accidents so on and so forth!
• Ideal for the younger users, as well as the older ones, been as parents can make use of surrounding amenities whilst keeping an eye to their children. This would be great for those who would feel uncomfortable leaving their children in a remote or isolated facility
Can we have our skatepark now please!!!
After many years of meetings, signing petitions and generally trying to get a skate facility to be proud of, hopefully were nearly there.
I for one would love to see a larger more spacious facility in a more debatably suitable location (e.g. the memorial park!)
But after several meeting the users and the counselors all came to the conclusion that a concrete park down the river was going to be suitable. Ideally another all year round, risk free and spacious venue would be fantastic, but it's not going to happen, all locations in this town have been explored and a conclusion was drawn on the riverside. (Not perfect but suitable.)
p.s. other pros include:
• A centralised location in stourport, not to far to travel whether your from Burlish or the Walshes.
• Ideal size, scale and materials used for the location and facility (an outdoor skatepark is going to get wet no matter what it’s made of!!!)
• Ideal area for it to be policed and monitored for vandalism, anti social behaviors, accidents so on and so forth!
• Ideal for the younger users, as well as the older ones, been as parents can make use of surrounding amenities whilst keeping an eye to their children. This would be great for those who would feel uncomfortable leaving their children in a remote or isolated facility
Can we have our skatepark now please!!!
ben, s-o-s says...
7:46pm Thu 22 Feb 07
It's nice to see this topic being addressed fully, with people expressing their opinions, putting aside bickering, we all agree we need a skatepark and that Stourport would profit from such an attraction not only for the locals but also attracting other users from neighboring areas.
After many years of meetings, signing petitions and generally trying to get a skate facility to be proud of, hopefully were nearly there.
I for one would love to see a larger more spacious facility in a more debatably suitable location (e.g. the memorial park!)
But after several meeting the users and the counselors all came to the conclusion that a concrete park down the river was going to be suitable. Ideally another all year round, risk free and spacious venue would be fantastic, but it's not going to happen, all locations in this town have been explored and a conclusion was drawn on the riverside. (Not perfect but suitable.)
p.s. other pros include:
• A centralised location in stourport, not to far to travel whether your from Burlish or the Walshes.
• Ideal size, scale and materials used for the location and facility (an outdoor skatepark is going to get wet no matter what it’s made of!!!)
• Ideal area for it to be policed and monitored for vandalism, anti social behaviors, accidents so on and so forth!
• Ideal for the younger users, as well as the older ones, been as parents can make use of surrounding amenities whilst keeping an eye to their children. This would be great for those who would feel uncomfortable leaving their children in a remote or isolated facility
Can we have our skatepark now please!!!
After many years of meetings, signing petitions and generally trying to get a skate facility to be proud of, hopefully were nearly there.
I for one would love to see a larger more spacious facility in a more debatably suitable location (e.g. the memorial park!)
But after several meeting the users and the counselors all came to the conclusion that a concrete park down the river was going to be suitable. Ideally another all year round, risk free and spacious venue would be fantastic, but it's not going to happen, all locations in this town have been explored and a conclusion was drawn on the riverside. (Not perfect but suitable.)
p.s. other pros include:
• A centralised location in stourport, not to far to travel whether your from Burlish or the Walshes.
• Ideal size, scale and materials used for the location and facility (an outdoor skatepark is going to get wet no matter what it’s made of!!!)
• Ideal area for it to be policed and monitored for vandalism, anti social behaviors, accidents so on and so forth!
• Ideal for the younger users, as well as the older ones, been as parents can make use of surrounding amenities whilst keeping an eye to their children. This would be great for those who would feel uncomfortable leaving their children in a remote or isolated facility
Can we have our skatepark now please!!!
ben, s-o-s says...
7:46pm Thu 22 Feb 07
It's nice to see this topic being addressed fully, with people expressing their opinions, putting aside bickering, we all agree we need a skatepark and that Stourport would profit from such an attraction not only for the locals but also attracting other users from neighboring areas.
After many years of meetings, signing petitions and generally trying to get a skate facility to be proud of, hopefully were nearly there.
I for one would love to see a larger more spacious facility in a more debatably suitable location (e.g. the memorial park!)
But after several meeting the users and the counselors all came to the conclusion that a concrete park down the river was going to be suitable. Ideally another all year round, risk free and spacious venue would be fantastic, but it's not going to happen, all locations in this town have been explored and a conclusion was drawn on the riverside. (Not perfect but suitable.)
p.s. other pros include:
• A centralised location in stourport, not to far to travel whether your from Burlish or the Walshes.
• Ideal size, scale and materials used for the location and facility (an outdoor skatepark is going to get wet no matter what it’s made of!!!)
• Ideal area for it to be policed and monitored for vandalism, anti social behaviors, accidents so on and so forth!
• Ideal for the younger users, as well as the older ones, been as parents can make use of surrounding amenities whilst keeping an eye to their children. This would be great for those who would feel uncomfortable leaving their children in a remote or isolated facility
Can we have our skatepark now please!!!
After many years of meetings, signing petitions and generally trying to get a skate facility to be proud of, hopefully were nearly there.
I for one would love to see a larger more spacious facility in a more debatably suitable location (e.g. the memorial park!)
But after several meeting the users and the counselors all came to the conclusion that a concrete park down the river was going to be suitable. Ideally another all year round, risk free and spacious venue would be fantastic, but it's not going to happen, all locations in this town have been explored and a conclusion was drawn on the riverside. (Not perfect but suitable.)
p.s. other pros include:
• A centralised location in stourport, not to far to travel whether your from Burlish or the Walshes.
• Ideal size, scale and materials used for the location and facility (an outdoor skatepark is going to get wet no matter what it’s made of!!!)
• Ideal area for it to be policed and monitored for vandalism, anti social behaviors, accidents so on and so forth!
• Ideal for the younger users, as well as the older ones, been as parents can make use of surrounding amenities whilst keeping an eye to their children. This would be great for those who would feel uncomfortable leaving their children in a remote or isolated facility
Can we have our skatepark now please!!!
Evie, Kidderminster says...
3:31pm Sat 24 Feb 07
For those who would not be using the skate park and possibly have never used a skate park, I don't think it is an appropriate place for you to pass judgement on a subject you know little about.
I have many friends living in the stourport AND kidderminster area who would use this new facility on a regular bases. The fact that it is being built in a family area is better for the community as families with an interest of sports such as skating would have the oppertunity to use it while other may want to use the pool.
I think you should be concentrating more on the fact that more people will enjoy and use the facility responsibly, than abusing it.
I have many friends living in the stourport AND kidderminster area who would use this new facility on a regular bases. The fact that it is being built in a family area is better for the community as families with an interest of sports such as skating would have the oppertunity to use it while other may want to use the pool.
I think you should be concentrating more on the fact that more people will enjoy and use the facility responsibly, than abusing it.
Evie, Kidderminster says...
3:31pm Sat 24 Feb 07
For those who would not be using the skate park and possibly have never used a skate park, I don't think it is an appropriate place for you to pass judgement on a subject you know little about.
I have many friends living in the stourport AND kidderminster area who would use this new facility on a regular bases. The fact that it is being built in a family area is better for the community as families with an interest of sports such as skating would have the oppertunity to use it while other may want to use the pool.
I think you should be concentrating more on the fact that more people will enjoy and use the facility responsibly, than abusing it.
I have many friends living in the stourport AND kidderminster area who would use this new facility on a regular bases. The fact that it is being built in a family area is better for the community as families with an interest of sports such as skating would have the oppertunity to use it while other may want to use the pool.
I think you should be concentrating more on the fact that more people will enjoy and use the facility responsibly, than abusing it.
Evie, Kidderminster says...
3:31pm Sat 24 Feb 07
For those who would not be using the skate park and possibly have never used a skate park, I don't think it is an appropriate place for you to pass judgement on a subject you know little about.
I have many friends living in the stourport AND kidderminster area who would use this new facility on a regular bases. The fact that it is being built in a family area is better for the community as families with an interest of sports such as skating would have the oppertunity to use it while other may want to use the pool.
I think you should be concentrating more on the fact that more people will enjoy and use the facility responsibly, than abusing it.
I have many friends living in the stourport AND kidderminster area who would use this new facility on a regular bases. The fact that it is being built in a family area is better for the community as families with an interest of sports such as skating would have the oppertunity to use it while other may want to use the pool.
I think you should be concentrating more on the fact that more people will enjoy and use the facility responsibly, than abusing it.
Craig Organ, stourport says...
3:36pm Sat 24 Feb 07
I propose that instead of endless bantering on the internet, we should organise a meeting to debate the issues so many people seem to have.
On the subject of the proposed area, every other possible site has been considered for many years now. It has already been decided by councillers as well as the young people who will be using the equiptment.
I will be in contact with the council very soon to organise a meeting. Anyone who would like to come to share thier opinions could you please email me at craigorgan@hotmail.com
On the subject of the proposed area, every other possible site has been considered for many years now. It has already been decided by councillers as well as the young people who will be using the equiptment.
I will be in contact with the council very soon to organise a meeting. Anyone who would like to come to share thier opinions could you please email me at craigorgan@hotmail.com
Craig Organ, stourport says...
3:36pm Sat 24 Feb 07
I propose that instead of endless bantering on the internet, we should organise a meeting to debate the issues so many people seem to have.
On the subject of the proposed area, every other possible site has been considered for many years now. It has already been decided by councillers as well as the young people who will be using the equiptment.
I will be in contact with the council very soon to organise a meeting. Anyone who would like to come to share thier opinions could you please email me at craigorgan@hotmail.com
On the subject of the proposed area, every other possible site has been considered for many years now. It has already been decided by councillers as well as the young people who will be using the equiptment.
I will be in contact with the council very soon to organise a meeting. Anyone who would like to come to share thier opinions could you please email me at craigorgan@hotmail.com
Craig Organ, stourport says...
3:36pm Sat 24 Feb 07
I propose that instead of endless bantering on the internet, we should organise a meeting to debate the issues so many people seem to have.
On the subject of the proposed area, every other possible site has been considered for many years now. It has already been decided by councillers as well as the young people who will be using the equiptment.
I will be in contact with the council very soon to organise a meeting. Anyone who would like to come to share thier opinions could you please email me at craigorgan@hotmail.com
On the subject of the proposed area, every other possible site has been considered for many years now. It has already been decided by councillers as well as the young people who will be using the equiptment.
I will be in contact with the council very soon to organise a meeting. Anyone who would like to come to share thier opinions could you please email me at craigorgan@hotmail.com
-, Kidderminster says...
3:42pm Sat 24 Feb 07
I propose that all those who seem to be against the idea of building on this certain site should get off thier high horses and give the teenagers and younger people what they have deserved for so long.
The idea finally came through and made alot of people esxcited and happy about it, and it is unexceptable for people who have no idea about how much these teenagers have wanted this, to take away that chance for them to have something they will enjoy , look after and look foward to using.
I think its disgusting that you moan and groan about something that may have the chance to stop loitering as the children will have something to do.
The idea finally came through and made alot of people esxcited and happy about it, and it is unexceptable for people who have no idea about how much these teenagers have wanted this, to take away that chance for them to have something they will enjoy , look after and look foward to using.
I think its disgusting that you moan and groan about something that may have the chance to stop loitering as the children will have something to do.
-, Kidderminster says...
3:42pm Sat 24 Feb 07
I propose that all those who seem to be against the idea of building on this certain site should get off thier high horses and give the teenagers and younger people what they have deserved for so long.
The idea finally came through and made alot of people esxcited and happy about it, and it is unexceptable for people who have no idea about how much these teenagers have wanted this, to take away that chance for them to have something they will enjoy , look after and look foward to using.
I think its disgusting that you moan and groan about something that may have the chance to stop loitering as the children will have something to do.
The idea finally came through and made alot of people esxcited and happy about it, and it is unexceptable for people who have no idea about how much these teenagers have wanted this, to take away that chance for them to have something they will enjoy , look after and look foward to using.
I think its disgusting that you moan and groan about something that may have the chance to stop loitering as the children will have something to do.
-, Kidderminster says...
3:42pm Sat 24 Feb 07
I propose that all those who seem to be against the idea of building on this certain site should get off thier high horses and give the teenagers and younger people what they have deserved for so long.
The idea finally came through and made alot of people esxcited and happy about it, and it is unexceptable for people who have no idea about how much these teenagers have wanted this, to take away that chance for them to have something they will enjoy , look after and look foward to using.
I think its disgusting that you moan and groan about something that may have the chance to stop loitering as the children will have something to do.
The idea finally came through and made alot of people esxcited and happy about it, and it is unexceptable for people who have no idea about how much these teenagers have wanted this, to take away that chance for them to have something they will enjoy , look after and look foward to using.
I think its disgusting that you moan and groan about something that may have the chance to stop loitering as the children will have something to do.
matt, stourport says...
6:08pm Sun 25 Feb 07
professinal skateboarders my arse
matt, stourport says...
6:08pm Sun 25 Feb 07
professinal skateboarders my arse
matt, stourport says...
6:08pm Sun 25 Feb 07
professinal skateboarders my arse
Daniel, EnglandPEACELAND says...
1:49am Mon 26 Feb 07
Go Home all of you the FUN is over. ?I hate people who shout maybe you show go to Prague and see how clean there streets are clean of rubbiswh a filth...but filled with joy of the Yound!!! see for your4 People open yopur eyes and lookm at Babalon its a skate patrk in River
SEevern
That is what it is called...?Up youjrs //////trafvis leave Tom along he has comunist fatcorys in his life he is Big you are place of litter..../ and toi you i radse my peodle number....!!!! chezxch is the yaty true You...
See you at Babalon....
:L{PEACE::::}
SEevern
That is what it is called...?Up youjrs //////trafvis leave Tom along he has comunist fatcorys in his life he is Big you are place of litter..../ and toi you i radse my peodle number....!!!! chezxch is the yaty true You...
See you at Babalon....
:L{PEACE::::}
Daniel, EnglandPEACELAND says...
1:49am Mon 26 Feb 07
Go Home all of you the FUN is over. ?I hate people who shout maybe you show go to Prague and see how clean there streets are clean of rubbiswh a filth...but filled with joy of the Yound!!! see for your4 People open yopur eyes and lookm at Babalon its a skate patrk in River
SEevern
That is what it is called...?Up youjrs //////trafvis leave Tom along he has comunist fatcorys in his life he is Big you are place of litter..../ and toi you i radse my peodle number....!!!! chezxch is the yaty true You...
See you at Babalon....
:L{PEACE::::}
SEevern
That is what it is called...?Up youjrs //////trafvis leave Tom along he has comunist fatcorys in his life he is Big you are place of litter..../ and toi you i radse my peodle number....!!!! chezxch is the yaty true You...
See you at Babalon....
:L{PEACE::::}
Daniel, EnglandPEACELAND says...
1:49am Mon 26 Feb 07
Go Home all of you the FUN is over. ?I hate people who shout maybe you show go to Prague and see how clean there streets are clean of rubbiswh a filth...but filled with joy of the Yound!!! see for your4 People open yopur eyes and lookm at Babalon its a skate patrk in River
SEevern
That is what it is called...?Up youjrs //////trafvis leave Tom along he has comunist fatcorys in his life he is Big you are place of litter..../ and toi you i radse my peodle number....!!!! chezxch is the yaty true You...
See you at Babalon....
:L{PEACE::::}
SEevern
That is what it is called...?Up youjrs //////trafvis leave Tom along he has comunist fatcorys in his life he is Big you are place of litter..../ and toi you i radse my peodle number....!!!! chezxch is the yaty true You...
See you at Babalon....
:L{PEACE::::}
FlipC, Stourport says...
10:31am Tue 27 Feb 07
As perhaps one of the original participants in this little scuffle (flipc.blogspot.com - Nov 06) I thought it time I commented here.
For those who state that we should be thankful that Stourport is getting a skate-park I agree, though officially we're getting one on the basis we're the only one of the three major towns without such an area.
For those who wish that we'd stop talking about things we know nothing about, I expect you to use the same arguments when it comes to the proposed Tesco site.
So with that out of the way I'd like to reiterate Tavis's point - we want a skate-park. What we're looking at is where it's being placed, the decision making process that led to it being sited there, and the manner it which it is being planned.
Officially from the minutes only two sites were listed for consideration; next to the paddling pool and behind the Old Beams. The Old Beams site was rejected thus leaving only the paddling pool area. Sadly one of my many failings is that when presented with two choices I invariably look for a third.
Many people keep stating that the 'riverside' is the only viable site, I agree; just not the part of the riverside they're pointing at. My original thoughts were to keep it next to the river, yet place it on the other side of the putting green area. Tavis has since pointed out that moving it closer to the car-park would perhaps be better; a point I conceded.
Since proposing this site I expected the councillors to defend their choice, pointing out the reasons why this particular area is not suitable and why it was rejected. Instead all I hear is that the site they've chosen is the most viable, repeated ad nauseum.
Now we hear from Councillor Desmond that, due to the concerns of councillors as to its siting next to the paddling pool, it will have railings and be smaller then was originally proposed. So perhaps a different site might be the preferred option then?
For those who state that we should be thankful that Stourport is getting a skate-park I agree, though officially we're getting one on the basis we're the only one of the three major towns without such an area.
For those who wish that we'd stop talking about things we know nothing about, I expect you to use the same arguments when it comes to the proposed Tesco site.
So with that out of the way I'd like to reiterate Tavis's point - we want a skate-park. What we're looking at is where it's being placed, the decision making process that led to it being sited there, and the manner it which it is being planned.
Officially from the minutes only two sites were listed for consideration; next to the paddling pool and behind the Old Beams. The Old Beams site was rejected thus leaving only the paddling pool area. Sadly one of my many failings is that when presented with two choices I invariably look for a third.
Many people keep stating that the 'riverside' is the only viable site, I agree; just not the part of the riverside they're pointing at. My original thoughts were to keep it next to the river, yet place it on the other side of the putting green area. Tavis has since pointed out that moving it closer to the car-park would perhaps be better; a point I conceded.
Since proposing this site I expected the councillors to defend their choice, pointing out the reasons why this particular area is not suitable and why it was rejected. Instead all I hear is that the site they've chosen is the most viable, repeated ad nauseum.
Now we hear from Councillor Desmond that, due to the concerns of councillors as to its siting next to the paddling pool, it will have railings and be smaller then was originally proposed. So perhaps a different site might be the preferred option then?
FlipC, Stourport says...
10:31am Tue 27 Feb 07
As perhaps one of the original participants in this little scuffle (flipc.blogspot.com - Nov 06) I thought it time I commented here.
For those who state that we should be thankful that Stourport is getting a skate-park I agree, though officially we're getting one on the basis we're the only one of the three major towns without such an area.
For those who wish that we'd stop talking about things we know nothing about, I expect you to use the same arguments when it comes to the proposed Tesco site.
So with that out of the way I'd like to reiterate Tavis's point - we want a skate-park. What we're looking at is where it's being placed, the decision making process that led to it being sited there, and the manner it which it is being planned.
Officially from the minutes only two sites were listed for consideration; next to the paddling pool and behind the Old Beams. The Old Beams site was rejected thus leaving only the paddling pool area. Sadly one of my many failings is that when presented with two choices I invariably look for a third.
Many people keep stating that the 'riverside' is the only viable site, I agree; just not the part of the riverside they're pointing at. My original thoughts were to keep it next to the river, yet place it on the other side of the putting green area. Tavis has since pointed out that moving it closer to the car-park would perhaps be better; a point I conceded.
Since proposing this site I expected the councillors to defend their choice, pointing out the reasons why this particular area is not suitable and why it was rejected. Instead all I hear is that the site they've chosen is the most viable, repeated ad nauseum.
Now we hear from Councillor Desmond that, due to the concerns of councillors as to its siting next to the paddling pool, it will have railings and be smaller then was originally proposed. So perhaps a different site might be the preferred option then?
For those who state that we should be thankful that Stourport is getting a skate-park I agree, though officially we're getting one on the basis we're the only one of the three major towns without such an area.
For those who wish that we'd stop talking about things we know nothing about, I expect you to use the same arguments when it comes to the proposed Tesco site.
So with that out of the way I'd like to reiterate Tavis's point - we want a skate-park. What we're looking at is where it's being placed, the decision making process that led to it being sited there, and the manner it which it is being planned.
Officially from the minutes only two sites were listed for consideration; next to the paddling pool and behind the Old Beams. The Old Beams site was rejected thus leaving only the paddling pool area. Sadly one of my many failings is that when presented with two choices I invariably look for a third.
Many people keep stating that the 'riverside' is the only viable site, I agree; just not the part of the riverside they're pointing at. My original thoughts were to keep it next to the river, yet place it on the other side of the putting green area. Tavis has since pointed out that moving it closer to the car-park would perhaps be better; a point I conceded.
Since proposing this site I expected the councillors to defend their choice, pointing out the reasons why this particular area is not suitable and why it was rejected. Instead all I hear is that the site they've chosen is the most viable, repeated ad nauseum.
Now we hear from Councillor Desmond that, due to the concerns of councillors as to its siting next to the paddling pool, it will have railings and be smaller then was originally proposed. So perhaps a different site might be the preferred option then?
FlipC, Stourport says...
10:31am Tue 27 Feb 07
As perhaps one of the original participants in this little scuffle (flipc.blogspot.com - Nov 06) I thought it time I commented here.
For those who state that we should be thankful that Stourport is getting a skate-park I agree, though officially we're getting one on the basis we're the only one of the three major towns without such an area.
For those who wish that we'd stop talking about things we know nothing about, I expect you to use the same arguments when it comes to the proposed Tesco site.
So with that out of the way I'd like to reiterate Tavis's point - we want a skate-park. What we're looking at is where it's being placed, the decision making process that led to it being sited there, and the manner it which it is being planned.
Officially from the minutes only two sites were listed for consideration; next to the paddling pool and behind the Old Beams. The Old Beams site was rejected thus leaving only the paddling pool area. Sadly one of my many failings is that when presented with two choices I invariably look for a third.
Many people keep stating that the 'riverside' is the only viable site, I agree; just not the part of the riverside they're pointing at. My original thoughts were to keep it next to the river, yet place it on the other side of the putting green area. Tavis has since pointed out that moving it closer to the car-park would perhaps be better; a point I conceded.
Since proposing this site I expected the councillors to defend their choice, pointing out the reasons why this particular area is not suitable and why it was rejected. Instead all I hear is that the site they've chosen is the most viable, repeated ad nauseum.
Now we hear from Councillor Desmond that, due to the concerns of councillors as to its siting next to the paddling pool, it will have railings and be smaller then was originally proposed. So perhaps a different site might be the preferred option then?
For those who state that we should be thankful that Stourport is getting a skate-park I agree, though officially we're getting one on the basis we're the only one of the three major towns without such an area.
For those who wish that we'd stop talking about things we know nothing about, I expect you to use the same arguments when it comes to the proposed Tesco site.
So with that out of the way I'd like to reiterate Tavis's point - we want a skate-park. What we're looking at is where it's being placed, the decision making process that led to it being sited there, and the manner it which it is being planned.
Officially from the minutes only two sites were listed for consideration; next to the paddling pool and behind the Old Beams. The Old Beams site was rejected thus leaving only the paddling pool area. Sadly one of my many failings is that when presented with two choices I invariably look for a third.
Many people keep stating that the 'riverside' is the only viable site, I agree; just not the part of the riverside they're pointing at. My original thoughts were to keep it next to the river, yet place it on the other side of the putting green area. Tavis has since pointed out that moving it closer to the car-park would perhaps be better; a point I conceded.
Since proposing this site I expected the councillors to defend their choice, pointing out the reasons why this particular area is not suitable and why it was rejected. Instead all I hear is that the site they've chosen is the most viable, repeated ad nauseum.
Now we hear from Councillor Desmond that, due to the concerns of councillors as to its siting next to the paddling pool, it will have railings and be smaller then was originally proposed. So perhaps a different site might be the preferred option then?
Divided views: Wyre Forest district councillor, John Campion, with David Little, of Stourport Town Council, at Riverside Meadows.
In this section
- Oil spill causes problems on busy Kidderminster island
- Kidderminster tots in the swim at free sessions
- Borrington Bash 'big success'
- Father and son deny Hartlebury Common murder
- Shoes stolen from Kidderminster shop
- Belbroughton crash man named
- Map shows Wyre Forest buildings' heat loss
- Kidderminster meeting to discuss local issues
- 'Serial shoplifter spotted on security cameras'
- Witnesses sought after Belbroughton crash
Sponsored Links
LOCAL WEBSITES
Local Information
Enter your postcode, town or place name
Chris Rogers, Stourport says...
9:43am Thu 15 Feb 07