Change in Wyre Forest District Council cabinet (From Kidderminster Shuttle)

kidderlord says...
9:12am Tue 25 Sep 12

Perhaps cllr philips will go public with the reasons behind this sudden change - isnt it about time someone stood up and told us the truth about what is going on? Or is it going to be front page news when the Tory conference starts? Now that's an idea........ now where's that phone number for reuters....

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FlipC - The Mad Ranter says...
9:19am Tue 25 Sep 12

And still no comment regarding the reported expulsion of Stephen Clee from the Conservative Party?

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kidderlord says...
9:22am Tue 25 Sep 12

Having just read the Labour website, I can now repeat what I have known since Friday --- Stephen Clee has been expelled from the Conservative party! This leads to the following questions... as he was appointed as a Conservative to the Chair of the Council, will he automatically lose this role. Similarly vice chair of the Fire Authority. Will the reasons for his expulsion be made public because the electorate want to know whether his has brought his position of an elected member into disrepute? Is the resignation of Mr Philips connected as he is a fellow Bewdley Cllr and protege of Clee? AND WHEN WILL THE PARTY BE TO CELEBRATE?

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Harrier Hen says...
9:25am Tue 25 Sep 12

@kidderlord Yes, why is the truth about what is going on not being reported? Why are the electorate being kept in the dark?

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Jane Gordon says...
9:39am Tue 25 Sep 12

Everything is a secret and underhanded with this tory administration. The electorate is alway kept in the dark. They do not consider what is best - they just want to spend rather than improve and build on what is available. Leisure centre on the Spennells road is also a 'secret'.

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Harrier Hen says...
10:35am Tue 25 Sep 12

I'm not surprised that Wyre Forest Conservatives feel a need to keep it secret but it broke on Twitter last Friday evening and still nothing in the Shuttle!

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Red Flag Dan says...
10:37am Tue 25 Sep 12

A classic piece of spin by the Tories. The real story here is that the Chairman of Wyre Forest Council has been expelled from the Conservative Party.

Local people will want to know why he has been expelled. What has changed since he was last selected as a Conservative candidate?

He has clearly lost the confidence of the Wyre Forest Conservative Association and the national party. But does he still retain the confidence of the Conservative group on Wyre Forest District Council? Will they continue to support him as Chairman of the Council?

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HowardM says...
11:32am Tue 25 Sep 12

Allegedly - Julian Phillips resigned his post because he didnt like the support still being shown for Clee in the Tory Council Group. Julian has been an excellent Cabinet Member and, on this matter, has shown real principles far in excess of some of his party colleagues. Cllr Hingley, on the other hand, is a strong supporter of Clee so one needs to view her appointment with some scepticism. Quite clearly, in my opinion, the Tory Group have put party power, again, ahead of what is best for the community they are supposed to serve. Julian was far and away the best Councillor for the job he was doing.
On the other hand, if as the Leader suggests, Julian needed to concentrate on his full time job because he was too busy then perhaps there are a couple of other Cabinet members with full time jobs and County roles, who should also quit?
Whilst, because of the Tory embarrassment over this and their failure, yet again, to be open and honest with the electorate, much of what is being said is hearsay. However "hearsay" believes that the Tory Party expelled Clee on Friday night but the Council Tory Group refused to withdraw the Whip and are keeping him in the Group, but as a non party member. The silence by the Party over this matter is the reason why we are all speculating on here, so in the interests of the community, accountablity, openess, honesty and democracy can we be told if our speculation is accurate or not. Or will the media release promised to many media contacts yesterday only be forthcoming after the Shuttle has been printed on Wednesday?
The Labour Party, in our initial release on our web site, made it clear that the Conservatives had acted on an internal matter, to dismiss Cllr Clee - that was a matter for them and we believe it was an act of courage and integrity to take what was clearly a difficult and soul searching step. It wouldnt have been taken lightly and we respected those responsible for their action. That would have been the end of the matter for us and we would have made no further comment.
Now, however, the apparent actions of the Tory Councillors brings the whole process of collective decision making into disrepute and makes those responsible for this "fudge" appear self serving, power at all costs and no respect for the democratic process. Surely, if the national Conservative Party decide to expel a long serving member then that individual has no right to be considered fit to represent the residents of Wyre Forest? And if the Tory Councillors on WFDC believe in democracy and the will of the majority within their own party, then that party decision should have been endorsed and Cllr Clee kicked out of the Tory Council Group. If they cant respect democracy with their colleagues, how are they able to act objectively to the benfit of Wyre Forest?
But what do I know, this is just opinion and hearsay until someone in the Tory Party has the moral fibre to actually tell us what is right or wrong! Mind you "right and wrong" dont seem to be words in the Tory vocabulary.

Allegedly - Julian Phillips resigned his post because he didnt like the support still being shown for Clee in the Tory Council Group. Julian has been an excellent Cabinet Member and, on this matter, has shown real principles far in excess of some of his party colleagues. Cllr Hingley, on the other hand, is a strong supporter of Clee so one needs to view her appointment with some scepticism. Quite clearly, in my opinion, the Tory Group have put party power, again, ahead of what is best for the community they are supposed to serve. Julian was far and away the best Councillor for the job he was doing. On the other hand, if as the Leader suggests, Julian needed to concentrate on his full time job because he was too busy then perhaps there are a couple of other Cabinet members with full time jobs and County roles, who should also quit? Whilst, because of the Tory embarrassment over this and their failure, yet again, to be open and honest with the electorate, much of what is being said is hearsay. However "hearsay" believes that the Tory Party expelled Clee on Friday night but the Council Tory Group refused to withdraw the Whip and are keeping him in the Group, but as a non party member. The silence by the Party over this matter is the reason why we are all speculating on here, so in the interests of the community, accountablity, openess, honesty and democracy can we be told if our speculation is accurate or not. Or will the media release promised to many media contacts yesterday only be forthcoming after the Shuttle has been printed on Wednesday? The Labour Party, in our initial release on our web site, made it clear that the Conservatives had acted on an internal matter, to dismiss Cllr Clee - that was a matter for them and we believe it was an act of courage and integrity to take what was clearly a difficult and soul searching step. It wouldnt have been taken lightly and we respected those responsible for their action. That would have been the end of the matter for us and we would have made no further comment. Now, however, the apparent actions of the Tory Councillors brings the whole process of collective decision making into disrepute and makes those responsible for this "fudge" appear self serving, power at all costs and no respect for the democratic process. Surely, if the national Conservative Party decide to expel a long serving member then that individual has no right to be considered fit to represent the residents of Wyre Forest? And if the Tory Councillors on WFDC believe in democracy and the will of the majority within their own party, then that party decision should have been endorsed and Cllr Clee kicked out of the Tory Council Group. If they cant respect democracy with their colleagues, how are they able to act objectively to the benfit of Wyre Forest? But what do I know, this is just opinion and hearsay until someone in the Tory Party has the moral fibre to actually tell us what is right or wrong! Mind you "right and wrong" dont seem to be words in the Tory vocabulary. HowardM

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HowardM says...
12:05pm Tue 25 Sep 12

"that individual has no right to be considered fit to represent the residents of Wyre Forest" - I meant it to add "as Chair of District Council" which is a Civil role of representation and integrity.

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walkerno5 says...
12:17pm Tue 25 Sep 12

When you're so bad even the Tories don't want you, the electorate deserve your removal from office surely?

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Jane Gordon says...
12:17pm Tue 25 Sep 12

It seems to me that Cllr Clee knows where all the local skeletons are hidden

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Red Flag Dan says...
12:26pm Tue 25 Sep 12

"I understand that he has the pressures of his full-time employment....."

Does Councillor Phillips' 'full-time' employer have a view on Stephen Clee's expulsion I wonder?

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Red Flag Dan says...
1:11pm Tue 25 Sep 12

A source has told the Worcester News, which is clearly more prepared to cover this story than the Kidderminster Shuttle, that Cllr Clee was expelled for “several reasons”, including not delivering Tory leaflets around the area when asked to do so.

Not delivering leaflets? That's an OUTRAGEOUS CLAIM!

The Conservative group on Worcestershire County Council have made their position clear. The Tory Leader has gone on the record to say:

"... as far as I am concerned, he’s a hard-working councillor and I support him.”

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jflawson says...
1:34pm Tue 25 Sep 12

There is a full council meeting at 6-0pm at Duke House wed 26/09/12
The public can attend should be interesting to sit quietly as listen to what has occured.

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jflawson says...
1:35pm Tue 25 Sep 12

There is a full council meeting at 6-0pm at Duke House wed 26/09/12
The public can attend should be interesting to sit quietly as listen to what has occured.

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kidderlord says...
2:22pm Tue 25 Sep 12

In the not too distant past theTory party expelled two other members - Councillor's Mumshad Ahmed and Sue Meekings. As I recall, their expulsion was announce immediately by the Tories, and no 14 day appeal/cooling off period allowed. Both were also thrown out of the Tory groups on Wyre Forest and county council. Why then has this man been treated differently? The public have a right to know his missdemeaners so that they can judge whether his is unfit to stand in public office, especially as Chairman of the local party.

Regarding Howard Martin speaking out, then I for one am glad that another local politician is speaking out, rather than the planned dignified silence planned by Labour, as we as the electorate have a right to know what the opinion is within the council.

His sackings supposed to be about leaflets - rubbish that is one thing Clee has been good at walking the streets. It is not too long ago that he was reprimanded for making false expenses claims at County Hall and walked away with a slapped wrist, so do not treat us like idiots Campion and make out he has been sacked for something so trivial.
Also i believe that if he has been suspended he should be suspended from his role of Chairman until the 14 days is over, and if he is finally expelled then he should be dismissed as chairman. This council is becoming a laughing stock throughout the country and the chief executive and legal officers should hold their heads in shame.

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kidderlord says...
2:23pm Tue 25 Sep 12

sorry should have read chairman of local council not party

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FranOb says...
2:44pm Tue 25 Sep 12

The Council Meeting is atThe CivicCentre Stourport NOT at Duke House!

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Jane Gordon says...
3:25pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Thought the new office block was suppose to be ready by now. Thank goodness for the Civic Centre in Stourport to back things up. Wonder if Fran will be taking the Chair ?

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Jon D says...
5:36pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Well done Julian Phillips, I always said he was too nice to be hanging around with the likes of Stephen Clee ;-)

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FranOb says...
10:06pm Tue 25 Sep 12

To Jane Gordon, the new Office opens on Oct 1st. Tomorrow's meeting is the last one at The Civic Centre!
As far as I know Cllr. Clee will be Chairing the meeting!

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jflawson says...
8:46am Wed 26 Sep 12

Apologies to Fran yes it is at the civic centre in stourport tonight. But i still say it would be right as a member of the the public to sit quitely as listen. I think it will be interesting hopefully now this has occured people will put Wyre Forest first and politics second for a change as there are many more important issues to be resolved.

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ctamsin says...
1:04pm Wed 26 Sep 12

@ Jane Gordon

"Leisure centre on the Spennells road is also a 'secret'.”

Is this right? Where on the Spennells road is that then.

I'm amazed how much money this council is spending in these 'times of austerity' they obviously didn't lose it all in Iceland

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kidderlord says...
2:10pm Wed 26 Sep 12

I now believe congratulations are due to Cllr Philips for his stand which is against the retention of Clee. I also believe "leafletgate" is not about Clee delivering, but he is alleged to have incinerated a number of leaflets promoting the MP Mark Grainger. It is also alleged that one of Clee's supporters is Marcus Hart - now I find that difficult for several reasons one of which is that several years ago he and Nathan Desmond held meetings with another Conservative Councillor to see how they could get rid of the man,when he was leader of the Wyre Forest Tories. The meeting(s) were witnessed by a very reliable former Health Concern Councillor. However, perhaps if the allegation re Clee destroying Grainger's leaflets is true, then perhaps he is trying hard to depose him of his seat in Wyre Forest in order that Hart can step in and be the candidate which of course would be a gift horse for Labour and Health Concern. There are other allegations about Clee going around, so isn't it right and proper that either he or the Tories made a statement to put to bed any of these allegations that may be false. I see Campion is being quiet but then his job as leader is in jeapordy, so with a split Tory camp then I presume he doesn't want to upset too many people. Perhaps we will have a new leader and chairman by the time the new offices open. We can hope.

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Jon D says...
4:29pm Wed 26 Sep 12

Interesting stuff Kidderlord ;-)

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John Herbert Smith says...
5:54pm Wed 26 Sep 12

Thanks Kidderlord, do you know of any of the "skeletons in the cupboard" that Clee supposedly has?

I'm glad has gone. Allegedly, Clee is the reason why a Cllr in Bewdley Cllr left the Tories and went independent a few years ago.

I CALL UPON ANYONE WITH INSIDER INFO TO POST WHAT'S GOING ON!

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kidderlord says...
8:19pm Wed 26 Sep 12

Actually u may be talking about Nigel Adddison from Wolverley who resigned from the Tories and stood as an Independent because of him. He had no support from the Tories who actually for many years pulled out all the stops to defeat him..... just goes to show his decision was the right one, even if it wa,s so long ago. I hope Julian Philips doesnt suffer the same treatment from the Tories if Clee wins his appeal.

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Gobby Robby says...
10:09pm Wed 26 Sep 12

Don't have any insider information on this incident but if people start putting his skeletons in the cupboard up the site may crash. Most people probably know them but worried about legality.

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John Herbert Smith says...
10:33pm Wed 26 Sep 12

Anon account? False email address? Post from an internet cafe wearing a balaclava?

I jest...

I've heard about N Addison. But I have been led to believe that there was a another one a few years back. Won't name names of course!

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lucylockit says...
6:55am Thu 27 Sep 12

yes there is another councillor who resigned and became independent over an upset with SC but it would not be fair to say their name without permission.There is also many constituents that have been upset as well but again only they have the right to report incidents.I'm sure we will hear much in the coming weeks.

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jflawson says...
8:46am Thu 27 Sep 12

I sat in public gallery last night, i am sure certain people were dying to ask what is going but nothing was said.
When it came to an important vote on licensing of Taxi.s all the Conservatives voted together although i did hear the word independent conservative mentioned by a non tory councillor.

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kidderlord says...
10:19am Thu 27 Sep 12

That reference would not have been to Clee because he would not have voted as Chair of Council.
@lucylockit if a serving councillor changed from Tory to Independent it is a matter of public record and I can not recall any such person so perhaps you could enlighten us..or were they not actually a councillor?

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HowardM says...
12:21pm Thu 27 Sep 12

For accuracy - the Chair of Council has a vote as a Member of Council and he has a casting vote as Chair in the event of a tie. So last night there were two votes on the Taxi issue - one a Labour amendment and the other the substantive decision to delegate part of Taxi licensing to officers. The vote on both was 21/21 with the Chair voting with the Tories. So he then used his casting vote to carry the Tory line. Therefore the Chair of WFDC had TWO votes, twice, last night on a very controversial matter. I make no judgement since those are the rules but it does make rather a mockery of local democracy in view of the events of the last few days. Party power before people every time for some it seems?

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kidderlord says...
1:19pm Thu 27 Sep 12

Thank you for that clarification Mr Martin. It is so good to know that we can rely on your good self to keep the electorate of Wyre Forest informed of what is going on and what matters- a refreshing change. This is why I believe many local residents would like to see you as the official Wyre Forest Labour Party candidate for the next election, so that more and more support can be gained on your behalf to ensure your victory. Your views may not be to everyone's taste but NO ONE can deny you represent the people of Wyre Forest unlike many local "politicians" who represent themselves!

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Gobby Robby says...
2:05pm Thu 27 Sep 12

I agree :-)

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Gobby Robby says...
2:32pm Thu 27 Sep 12

I've just heard a rumour that Julian jumped before he was pushed?

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lucylockit says...
3:29pm Thu 27 Sep 12

Then you need to check your records again.....

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John Herbert Smith says...
3:29pm Thu 27 Sep 12

Pushed by who I wonder...

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lucylockit says...
3:30pm Thu 27 Sep 12

Then you need to check your records again.....

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lucylockit says...
3:42pm Thu 27 Sep 12

Try 2004

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Mr Jones of Bewdley says...
4:22pm Thu 27 Sep 12

as a Labour supporter I'm not bothered who is or isn't in a Tory cabinet however I have written to Julian a couple of times over the past couple of years about Bewdley issues and his replies have always been full and candid. With all these rumours flying around, has he actually issued a personal statement or has The Shuttle or anyone else actually contacted him and asked him why he resigned?

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Gobby Robby says...
5:00pm Thu 27 Sep 12

I've now had it confirmed by a high ranking politico that Julian was indeed pushed for standing up to Stephen Clee.

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John Herbert Smith says...
5:24pm Thu 27 Sep 12

What a shame he didn't hang on in there. Hopefully he'll rejoin now Clee's gone?

How many people has Clee allegedly bullied out now? It's quite telling that he has to get voted in at a seat miles away from Bewdley, all the locals know better...

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kidderlord says...
5:40pm Thu 27 Sep 12

I UNDERSTAND that Clee had already been deselected for his County seat at Chaddesley, and rumour was that he ould stand as an Independent against Campion in Bewdley which would be a god send for Health Concern who already have a strong following and with a split vote could clean up. I don't know who exactly would have "pushed" Julian as the role of Cabinet members is in the hands of the Leader, in this case J Campion, and I believe he is NOT a fan of Clee. We are going to have to wait another week before anyone can talk I assume, because Clee had 14 days to appeal, and I presume until the expiration of that time it is considered "sub judice" in case of prejudicing that appeal. HOWEVER, IF THEIR ARE ANY PERSONS HERE WHO ARE MEMBERS OF THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY perhaps you should send a letter to Central Office pointing out his misdemeanours that we all know about. At the same time perhaps we should all write to the Standards Board at County and District to ask that they consider his role as a public servant. It will be interested of course if he loses his appeal whether he will still be accepted by the County and District Tory Groups, because surely if he is expelled, to continue to accept him as a Tory would mean they are breaking the party rules, and could be disciplined themselves. Interestingly enough Worcester City Council have a serious problem with a member of the Tory group who just recently lost a vote of no confidence by the opposition parties, but is STILL being supported by the Leader and Tory colleagues. So much for Cameron clearing up the sleaze in the party, especially with the chief Whip insulting police officers in Downing Street. No wonder the American thought he was comical on Letterman. And we thought Boris was the joker in the Tory pack.

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Gobby Robby says...
5:56pm Thu 27 Sep 12

Good post Kidderlord. I saw the Worcs Evening Post online & it seems the Tories are about to fall there due to the innoportune actions of their own rogue Councillor who they all backed. Interestingly enough I did recently hear from a very high ranking member of Health Concern's partner that they were sitting in a car with Stephen when he referred to the people outside (it was a Royal visit or something) that 'they should know their place'. As for Cameron going on Letterman - more evidence of his poor judgement - he didn't know what Magna Carta was!!! Any English Prime Minister of Great Britain who doesn't know what Magna Carta was has no right to govern us. He should stand down as well ;-)

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telford7 says...
6:23pm Thu 27 Sep 12

Stephen has always worked hard for the community that he serves. At the end of the day people vote for the candidate and not the party. He will regalvinise the Health Concern group and Mark Garnier will go the same way as Locke when Dr Taylor beats him in 2015.

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kidderlord says...
6:34pm Thu 27 Sep 12

Oh he is joining Health Concern then.. thanks for the inside information Telford..... and what planet are you on.., Dr Taylor wont be standing in 2015 for ICHC but Graham Ballinger... please keep up.
And I hope ICHC find out why he was expelled by the Tories before adopting him.

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kidderlord says...
6:35pm Thu 27 Sep 12

By the way you are right about Garnier.. in fact it is expected he will try for the Mid Worcestershire safe seat now peter is retiring, but it will be Labour and hopefully Howard Martin that takes the seat.

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Gobby Robby says...
6:35pm Thu 27 Sep 12

Well that's not true for a start, people overwhelmingly vote for the Party not the candidate otherwise Steve would be waiting for his first job as a Councillor.
Anyway does this mean he's joining Health Concern?

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lucylockit says...
8:36pm Thu 27 Sep 12

Please somebody help and stop this rumour before it starts. No way would ICHC lower their standards and allow someone like this to join..They may be a party of independents but they still follow a common cause started by Dr Taylor .A man of unassumed dignity and honour. Hardly a place SC would feel comfortable at.

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Gobby Robby says...
9:20pm Thu 27 Sep 12

"No way would ICHC lower their standards" - is that a joke? They have their own SCs Brian Glass for starters.

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telford7 says...
9:45pm Thu 27 Sep 12

You fail to realise that Stephen is popular with a lot Conservative councillors who believe that he has been treated badly by the latecomers in the party. If he is kicked out he could be followed by 6 of his colleagues.
This issue is bigger than Stephen and some Health Concern Councillors are keen to be the second biggest party so they can get committee chairmanships.
It will kickstart the general election campaign as well and yes, Dr Taylor will be the candidate. It won't be Graham.

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lucylockit says...
9:57pm Thu 27 Sep 12

you are certainly in the know Gobby Robby.Quotes from a high ranking ICHC members partner,rumours about JP, whispers from high ranking politico's .......Who am I to dispute such a fountain
of information.

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Gobby Robby says...
10:03pm Thu 27 Sep 12

I have tentacles reaching into the most unlikely and unseemly places lucylockit. A councillor can't f*rt without me hearing about it. Having said that you only need to ask any resident of Stourport about BG to get that info ;-)

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Gobby Robby says...
10:08pm Thu 27 Sep 12

As regards telford7's information it seems a bit purple for me, but would be hilarious if true. Dr Taylor is supposed to heading a national party on NHS lines, so that would be socialist. If you got SC joining & 6 other hardline Tories it would probably become the worlds most confused political party. Can't wait ;-)

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lucylockit says...
10:09pm Thu 27 Sep 12

I will ask ........Cant understand why he keeps getting re elected though

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Gobby Robby says...
10:23pm Thu 27 Sep 12

Same reason as SC, people take no interest in politics, very few people vote in local elections, and most people vote for the Party rather than the candidate.

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Mr.Fie says...
1:06am Fri 28 Sep 12

My interest in politics is growing, though most people dont take a lot of interest in politics because politicians take little interest in the people. I did vote, however, at no point did I see a representative from any party in my area to explain what they are going to do, I tried to google who was running and the results were less than dissapointing. in the end, I chose not to vote for any of the main parties. local elections are slightly different, but as for the 'biggies' they all promise different and better things but lead us towards the same doom and gloom, about time we had something 'fresh'.. appologies for slipping of topic here.

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kidderlord says...
7:53am Fri 28 Sep 12

Yes we all know about the breakaway group and supporters of Clee, and I presume the Johnny **** lately person is Campion? Well as I understand it the moves that originates for Clee to be suspended came from a senior figure in the constituency party who has been around for a very very long time. He is a respected and intelligent and very nice gentleman who has put more effort into the party than Clee and Campion together. I also know for a fact that several of the constituency hierarchy including officers, have wanted Clee out for many years.
As for ICHC adopting six ex tories who have for the last five years belittled and berated the ICHC party I would be absolutely stunned. And how can ICHC sack Graham B when he has been publicly displayed as their parliamentary candidate.
Not sure that comments re Brian are helpful because the issue here is Clee and I don't think it helps to make comments about a third party not part of the debate.

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kidderlord says...
8:02am Fri 28 Sep 12

Oh and do you think Marcus Hart and Anne Hingley (and poss Nathan Desmond) part of the big 6 would risk giving up their lucrative Cabinet Portfolios to form a breakaway group. If nothing else, Marcus Hart has BLUE BLOOD running through his viens, has aspirations to be an MP and in no way would jeapordise his place in the conservative Party.

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HowardM says...
12:21pm Fri 28 Sep 12

Telford7 "This issue is bigger than Stephen and some Health Concern Councillors are keen to be the second biggest party so they can get committee chairmanships." Rubbish - sorry but it is!
ICHC & Labour dont get Committee Chairs because the Tories dont offer them any! it has nothing to do with part size. Effectively the only Chair open to an opposition Chair is Scrutiny and that has been held by Helen Dyke for several years - firstly as a Lib Dem, the smallest party on the Council, then as an Independent sitting with the Liberals - still the smallest group on the Council.
All the other Chairs are held by the Tories as they are the administration and that is common practice in local government everywhere. The ultimate size of ICHC, Labour or anyone else is not relevent to holding Chairs.

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jflawson says...
3:56pm Fri 28 Sep 12

First off i do not support the blue corner.
This week have been at three evenings where Stephen Clee has been present.

A Rock Parish Council Meeting where after the meeting i commented to Stephen that he might have put the cat amongst the pigeons,his only comment was that it would be nice for everyone to rowing in the same direction.

Then as previously stated i sat in public gallery to listen council meeting
were due to a 21/21 vote Stephen as chairman was entitled to use his casting vote which he did in favour of the blue party(fair plays Fran voted the other way).
Last night in his own time he helped myself and three new Parish Councillors about the CALC involvement in parish councils.

Some of the comments on this subject may well be correct but i have say until the 14 days allowed to
appeal against whatever has occured
i find quite spurious.
As i have stated before if what has happened means some of the blue
policy decisions come under more scrunity, all the better for the people of WYRE FOREST and not political double dealing which does not help the likes of the ordinary people like me who is privileged Iin my opinion to live in one of the best areas in England.

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kidderlord says...
4:40pm Fri 28 Sep 12

Re "in his own time..." where are you a P.Cllr only he is a paid clerk of a PC! And the 14 days may allow him to appeal but the facts speak for themselves and if writing these comments assist the party in upholding the decision and it means his departure from the local political scene then I say "KEEP ON WRITING FOLKS"

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kidderlord says...
4:41pm Fri 28 Sep 12

telford7 says...
6:23pm Thu 27 Sep 12

Stephen has always worked hard for the community that he serves. At the end of the day people vote for the candidate and not the party. He will regalvinise the Health Concern group and Mark Garnier will go the same way as Locke when Dr Taylor beats him in 2015.

What a busy man he is going to be Telford now the Shuttle tells us he is about to launch the new national party!!!!

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Johnny Kasino says...
7:28pm Fri 28 Sep 12

So the Tories continue the push to the bottom in Wyre Forest. Is anyone suprised they these Tories tell us we are all f****** plebs anyway. What a grubby bunch they are and always have been. Wyre Forest is hurting, more jobs lost, no investment, retail closeures. But why are the readers having to do the job of Shuttle journalists (sic) in following this story?Have they been told to bury this story of can't they be bothered to leave the office.

Well done readers. Maybe its time we took a leaf out of the BarnetBugle book. If the local rag won't touch it lets do it for ourselves.

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neilhar says...
8:57pm Fri 28 Sep 12

This particular local rag is Blue to the core.

Also, I got told by an ICHC member once that they had been invited to join the Tory party here, being told that there would always be a safe seat for them to contest. The invite came from another ICHC councillor.

It has to be said, politics in this district stinks. Badly. Smoke and mirrors is not confined to the one colour

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John Herbert Smith says...
12:33am Sat 29 Sep 12

I agree with Kidderlord and repeat what I said above.

KEEP POSTING INSIDER INFO - WE DESERVE THE TRUTH.

Even if it gets deleted, at least some people will read it!

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John Herbert Smith says...
12:34am Sat 29 Sep 12

Just noticed that a whole swath of posts on the other article have been axed. Appalling.

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Gobby Robby says...
10:31am Sat 29 Sep 12

Censorship on behalf of Clee and the Conservatives. Undemocratic.

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walkerno5 says...
7:48pm Sat 29 Sep 12

There are many other channels online that you can use to spread the word if you want to.

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ctamsin says...
6:20pm Mon 1 Oct 12

How can they delete a whole thread just like that! So much for free speech, OK if there's the odd comment that goes a bit far, censor it but I don 't understand why they have deleted the complete debate.

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