Man suffers broken jaw in attack (From Kidderminster Shuttle)
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Man suffers broken jaw in attack
4:47pm Tuesday 16th October 2012 in Local
A MAN suffered a broken jaw after he was attacked in Kidderminster.
The man in his 20s, was assaulted in Bewdley Hill between 12.30am and 2am last Thursday while walking home from a friend's house.
He suffered serious facial injuries and had to have an operation to have a metal plate inserted into his jaw.
Detective Constable Jon Cooper of Kidderminster CID said: "The victim suffered some very nasty injuries and cannot really remember much about what happened.
“Although we understand this attack took place near the Tesco Express in Bewdley Hill we cannot be specific about the number of offenders or descriptions.
“The man's iPhone 4, a wallet containing about £20 and his driving licence are all missing and may have been taken from him.
"We are urging people to come forward if they live nearby or were driving past between the relevant times and saw or heard something of this incident. Somebody will know who was responsible and we need them to tell us."
Anyone with information should call Det Con Cooper at Kidderminster Police Station on 101, quoting the incident reference 53-S-111012, or Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111.
Comments(25)
walkerno5
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12:29pm Wed 17 Oct 12
gin&tonic
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12:29pm Wed 17 Oct 12
Am too scared to go out in Kidderminster in the evening, but with the amount of burglaries being reported, is it safe to stay in either?
Respectable
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12:42pm Wed 17 Oct 12
walkerno5
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2:27pm Wed 17 Oct 12
walkerno5
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2:31pm Wed 17 Oct 12
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walkerno5
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2:37pm Wed 17 Oct 12
Respectable
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3:31pm Wed 17 Oct 12
If you're living in deprivation , how on earth can you afford to be out drinking in night clubs and bars till the small hours.
This is nothing to do with deprivation. This is a question of moral fibre and a lack of fundamental respect for others. The belief that it's acceptable to take what you want and lash out when you feel like it.
The constant string of incidents reported are nothing more than thuggery, bullying and anti-social behaviour.
I don't see many reports of people nicking food and clothes for their kids. Something you might associate with deprivation.
To defend or justify serious physical assaults on people under the banner of deprivation is unbelievable.
comberton hill questions
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3:56pm Wed 17 Oct 12
The trouble is that unless it is a very serious assault no one bothers to report these incidents and as such the figures are not truely respresentative of the crime problem. The reason for this in my opinion is that there is no faith that the police will be able to do anything anyway so why bother. There is a lot more crime than is reported to the police however I do not think that is a Kidderminster Issue it is more a brwakdown of societies fabric as a whole and lack of respect for other people and their property.
walkerno5
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4:38pm Wed 17 Oct 12
Look up! You might just catch my point as it sails over your head.
Your original question was "what is wrong with this town" (Kidderminster) and that "Check out the on-line news rags for Droitwich, Bromsgrove, Bromyard, Evesham, Pershore...No where near as bad a Kidderminster."
Firstly, the population of each of those places is much smaller than Kidderminster, so all other things being equal one would expect there to be more of everything in Kidderminster.
The deprivation question comes in because areas of increased deprivation tend to have more deprived, desperate, unemployed and low paid people, and I would assume also tend to have a disproportionate number of people with mental health problems and the stresses and strains that go with being stuck in what, to people at that end of the social strata, probably feels like a dead end town.
Now, the vast majority of people of course do not commit crimes, no matter how deprived. Which is why you don't hear reports of people nicking food and clothes for their kids all the time. They make do, lean on friends, and scrape by on benefits.
But with large numbers of people struggling to make ends meet, wouldn't you expect that the tension is more likely to boil over on a night out than in a more well to do setting?
Given this compared to some of the places you list, it would be natural to expect Kidderminster to have a somewhat higher per capita crime rate. I am not entirely convinced that this is the case and would like you to go and convince me otherwise since you are sure that Kidderminster is a hive of violent crime. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. If it has a slightly higher incidence of crime per capita than some local towns, I believe that adjusting for levels of deprivation would explain the variance.
There. Now I don't expect you to change your mind, a bit of a panic now and then can be good for the heart anyway, and you all seem to be enjoying it.
walkerno5
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4:41pm Wed 17 Oct 12
But I am trying to explain a variance in crime rate per capita.
Of course, your explanation that the people of Kidderminster must lack the upstanding moral fibre of Bromsgrove folk is an interesting one, but I would be interested to know why you think that might be the case.
Respectable
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8:51am Thu 18 Oct 12
Per Capita seems to be the adopted Latin phrase of journalists and statisticians..
My observations are not based on statistical analysis, merely the actual number of reported incidents over the last 6 months or so.
I'm fairly sure there is a worsening trend emerging.
I also notice that the vast majority (not all) of these incidents seem to happen late at night and on weekends...
This suggests to me that these violent incidents are nothing more than booze fuelled...
The debate could rage on for ever... But for me the bottom line is , it is not acceptable to go around Breaking peoples jaws and stealing their phones, smashing peoples heads off the floor, throwing people into canals, throwing chairs at passing cars, groping passing women in the street etc etc etc.. The more people that show their disapproval at this kind of behaviour the better, rather than offering "Explanations" that could appear to justify thuggish behaviour..
Jon D
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8:00pm Thu 18 Oct 12
Jon D
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8:14pm Thu 18 Oct 12
stour67
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10:17pm Thu 18 Oct 12
walkerno5
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5:04pm Fri 19 Oct 12
My observations are not based on statistical analysis, merely the actual number of reported incidents over the last 6 months or so. "
Oh dear. The actual number of reported incidents over the last 6 months is a statistic.
"Per Capita" is a useful way to think about things because it allows you to adjust for the size of places that you want to compare.
What you're basing your opinions on is your perception of the number of reported incidents over the last 6 months or so, rather than any reality, and coming to conclusions specifically about Kidderminster without performing the same rational statistical analysis on other towns and villages you want to compare to.
Your perception is as valid as anyone elses, but can ultimately be proved right or wrong by statistical analysis.
walkerno5
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5:06pm Fri 19 Oct 12
Closing entire businesses down because one group of idiots fancies a ruck after a few shandies is a bit OTT isn't it?
If they were too inebriated to serve, they wouldn't be capable of this kind of violence surely?
SOS lad
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11:59am Sun 21 Oct 12
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stour67
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5:28pm Sun 21 Oct 12
Respectable
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8:02am Mon 22 Oct 12
Not wanting to be too argumentative as my original point was about incidents of violent assault and not number crunching.. but for a statistic to be mathematically valid the sample size needs to be at least 125 ...to demonstrate capability or lack of...
A six month period with less than 125 incidents would only be indicative so not necessarily statistically valid. The data / sample size referred to could , I guess be referred to as "Attribute".. At least thats the way I remember it from my engineering studies...
Meanwhile , whilst we debate mathematical prowess a young girl is harassed by drunks in broad daylight whilst innocently going about her business... Maybe if more people showed "Any" degree of disapproval this kind of thing might not happen quite so much...
Gobby Robby
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9:22am Mon 22 Oct 12
Respectable
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10:20am Mon 22 Oct 12
1. This kind of forum.
2. Intervention (Although fraught with risk).
3. The use of Crimestoppers.
4. Being prepared to step up as a witness.
5. Maybe passing on names or photo's / video footage of incidents to police.
6. Making that 999 call when something is happening.
7. Not accepting being a victim or allowing someone else to be a victim.
The fact that you say "If You" want to stop it suggests that you don't... In fact this whole thread is full of argument that suggests people are reasonably happy / content with what,s happening .
Maybe I'm being idealistic .
Gobby Robby
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4:49pm Mon 22 Oct 12
Respectable
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6:51pm Mon 22 Oct 12
walkerno5
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11:06pm Mon 22 Oct 12
Respectable says...
8:01am Wed 17 Oct 12
What is wrong with this town...?
WHY is it SO lawless...??
Would really like any potential Street Pastor or Police Commissioner or Warden to explain this violent culture that is taking over ....!!