100 jobs to be created as auto giant builds £5m Kidderminster factory

'GAME CHANGER': John Campion.

'GAME CHANGER': John Campion.

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AN AUTO “giant” is set to build a new £5 million factory in Kidderminster - creating 100 new jobs.

Wyre Forest beat off strong competition from across the UK, Europe and Asia to attract the investment from Amtek Auto Group.

The foundry plant, to be developed on the former Lawrence Recycling site in Stourport Road, will manufacture aluminium components. It is hoped it will trigger automotive supply chain companies to be lured into the area.

Work to convert the vacant buildings at the site will start later this summer, with production due to start by the end of the year. It will mean Kidderminster will become one of the largest suppliers of auto parts in Europe, where Amtek’s major customers include JLR and Ford.

The 100 new, highly-skilled jobs will be created over the one to two years and the news comes on top of latest figures showing a fall in unemployment in Wyre Forest.

Amtek, which has 65 centres around the world, was tempted into the area thanks to a “significant incentive package” put together by Wyre Forest district and Worcestershire county councils.

Part of the attraction was that the site is on the South Kidderminster Enterprise Park, where firms can carry out certain types of development without planning permission.

Wyre Forest Council cabinet member for economic regeneration, Conservative councillor John Campion, welcomed the arrival of Amtek as a “real game changer for our local economy”.

He added: “It sends out a hugely positive signal to the market that Wyre Forest is truly open for business.

“We anticipate that an inward investor of this calibre will act as a catalyst for further investment and growth into Wyre Forest, firmly positioning Kidderminster as a ‘go to’ location for automotive supply chain companies.”

Conservative councillor Adrian Hardman, leader of Worcestershire County Council, said he was confident that, as plans progressed to build the Hoo Brook Link Road, more investment would be attracted to the area.

Laurence Hurley, chief operating officer for Amtek International, whose headquarters are in India, said: “The site in Kidderminster is an ideal fit with the operational requirements of Amtek International and will help the company to meet the growth in demand from its key European customers.

“We were extremely impressed with the pro-business attitude of the two councils and in a short space of time they were able to offer a substantial package of support that convinced the Amtek supervisory board that the Kidderminster site was the right place to invest.”

News of Amtek’s arrival comes as latest figures, from the Office for National Statistics, show a further fall in unemployment in Wyre Forest. A total of 1,216 local people are now claiming unemployment benefits - 903 (46 per cent) lower than July, 2013 and 79 fewer than in June, 2014.

Wyre Forest MP Mark Garnier said “This is certainly improving news for our area.

“Once again the claimant count in Wyre Forest is lower than both the regional and national average.

“This shows that all of the hard work that we do locally to combat unemployment is working.”

He added that the arrival of Amtek was “incredibly good news”.

He added: “This is exactly the type of manufacturing that works well in Wyre Forest and the West Midlands and it’s a much better use of that site. We must help this company by finding a local skills base.

“And Kidderminster College’s merger with Newcastle College will enhance the skills base.”

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6:11pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Doug_Hine says...

Hmm, good to see skilled jobs coming to Wyre Forest but I wonder how much the "package of support" is.
Hmm, good to see skilled jobs coming to Wyre Forest but I wonder how much the "package of support" is. Doug_Hine
  • Score: 2

9:10pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Europeanist64 says...

Great news for Kidderminster, the fact that these are technical and skilled jobs will bring some quality jobs to the area. Thank you Amtec Auto Group. I wish you and the venture well.

Why is that local Tory politicians and our MP want to get in on the act, each time a business invests or starts in the local area? ConDem policies and the resulting recession 2010 to 2014 led to a lot of job losses in Wyre Forest in both the public and private sectors. Unemployment rates more than doubled 2010 to 2014 in Wyre Forest

Bank of England Governor Mark Carney provided a telling economic assessment of the last 4 years, stating that there will be a record low of wage growth in 2015, (1.25%) and retail prices are growing by over 3% a year. That is a DROP in living standards. Locally, according to Government data, the average household income in Wyre Forest declined by over £60 between 2010 and 2013. Carney also stated that any economic growth between 2010 and 2014 was as a result of Labour's quantitative easing by chancellor Alistair Darling of £375 billion in 2009.

So, Tories please stop trying to pretend that you are the party of: jobs, prosperity and economic growth, when everyone can see that you are the party of: zero hour contracts, job losses, zero economic growth, poverty, cruelty and recession.
Great news for Kidderminster, the fact that these are technical and skilled jobs will bring some quality jobs to the area. Thank you Amtec Auto Group. I wish you and the venture well. Why is that local Tory politicians and our MP want to get in on the act, each time a business invests or starts in the local area? ConDem policies and the resulting recession 2010 to 2014 led to a lot of job losses in Wyre Forest in both the public and private sectors. Unemployment rates more than doubled 2010 to 2014 in Wyre Forest Bank of England Governor Mark Carney provided a telling economic assessment of the last 4 years, stating that there will be a record low of wage growth in 2015, (1.25%) and retail prices are growing by over 3% a year. That is a DROP in living standards. Locally, according to Government data, the average household income in Wyre Forest declined by over £60 between 2010 and 2013. Carney also stated that any economic growth between 2010 and 2014 was as a result of Labour's quantitative easing by chancellor Alistair Darling of £375 billion in 2009. So, Tories please stop trying to pretend that you are the party of: jobs, prosperity and economic growth, when everyone can see that you are the party of: zero hour contracts, job losses, zero economic growth, poverty, cruelty and recession. Europeanist64
  • Score: 14

6:21pm Fri 15 Aug 14

drbeat says...

Europeanist64 wrote:
Great news for Kidderminster, the fact that these are technical and skilled jobs will bring some quality jobs to the area. Thank you Amtec Auto Group. I wish you and the venture well.

Why is that local Tory politicians and our MP want to get in on the act, each time a business invests or starts in the local area? ConDem policies and the resulting recession 2010 to 2014 led to a lot of job losses in Wyre Forest in both the public and private sectors. Unemployment rates more than doubled 2010 to 2014 in Wyre Forest

Bank of England Governor Mark Carney provided a telling economic assessment of the last 4 years, stating that there will be a record low of wage growth in 2015, (1.25%) and retail prices are growing by over 3% a year. That is a DROP in living standards. Locally, according to Government data, the average household income in Wyre Forest declined by over £60 between 2010 and 2013. Carney also stated that any economic growth between 2010 and 2014 was as a result of Labour's quantitative easing by chancellor Alistair Darling of £375 billion in 2009.

So, Tories please stop trying to pretend that you are the party of: jobs, prosperity and economic growth, when everyone can see that you are the party of: zero hour contracts, job losses, zero economic growth, poverty, cruelty and recession.
Under what govt did Rover go bust? Labour

Under what govt did the UK experience the biggest fall in GDP since the war? Labour

Under what govt did house prices get out of reach for the average worker on an average salary? Labour

Under what govt did mortgage fraud and liars loans explode and drive up house prices? Labour

Under what govt sold of the UK gold reserves at the lowest possible price? Labour

Under what govt did the MP Expenses scandal take place? Labour

Under what govt did the debasing of our currency take place aka quantitative easing? Labour

Under what govt did the banks go bust? Labour

Under what govt took our lads into an illegal war in Iraq? Labour

Under what govt did our national debt get over a trillion pounds? Labour

Under what govt was a 'light touch' applied to the City? Labour

Under what govt were interest rates lowered to 0.5% meaning savers got nothing in return for being prudent with their money? Labour

Under what govt did zero hour contracts become known? Labour

Under what govt did the UK experience the worst recession in history? Labour

Under what govt were the feckless bailed out? Labour

Under what govt did our a lot of our schools and hospitals get privatised and then rented back to us? Labour

The list could go on. It'll take about 50 years to get over 13 years of New Labour. And back in 97 we were warned: New Labour, Same Old Labour. Borrow, Spend, Tax, Spend.

Who is the party of zero hour contracts, job losses, zero economic growth, poverty, cruelty and recession? LABOUR. All took place under Labour.

Who maxed out the country's credit card? LABOUR

New Labour, New Danger.
[quote][p][bold]Europeanist64[/bold] wrote: Great news for Kidderminster, the fact that these are technical and skilled jobs will bring some quality jobs to the area. Thank you Amtec Auto Group. I wish you and the venture well. Why is that local Tory politicians and our MP want to get in on the act, each time a business invests or starts in the local area? ConDem policies and the resulting recession 2010 to 2014 led to a lot of job losses in Wyre Forest in both the public and private sectors. Unemployment rates more than doubled 2010 to 2014 in Wyre Forest Bank of England Governor Mark Carney provided a telling economic assessment of the last 4 years, stating that there will be a record low of wage growth in 2015, (1.25%) and retail prices are growing by over 3% a year. That is a DROP in living standards. Locally, according to Government data, the average household income in Wyre Forest declined by over £60 between 2010 and 2013. Carney also stated that any economic growth between 2010 and 2014 was as a result of Labour's quantitative easing by chancellor Alistair Darling of £375 billion in 2009. So, Tories please stop trying to pretend that you are the party of: jobs, prosperity and economic growth, when everyone can see that you are the party of: zero hour contracts, job losses, zero economic growth, poverty, cruelty and recession.[/p][/quote]Under what govt did Rover go bust? Labour Under what govt did the UK experience the biggest fall in GDP since the war? Labour Under what govt did house prices get out of reach for the average worker on an average salary? Labour Under what govt did mortgage fraud and liars loans explode and drive up house prices? Labour Under what govt sold of the UK gold reserves at the lowest possible price? Labour Under what govt did the MP Expenses scandal take place? Labour Under what govt did the debasing of our currency take place aka quantitative easing? Labour Under what govt did the banks go bust? Labour Under what govt took our lads into an illegal war in Iraq? Labour Under what govt did our national debt get over a trillion pounds? Labour Under what govt was a 'light touch' applied to the City? Labour Under what govt were interest rates lowered to 0.5% meaning savers got nothing in return for being prudent with their money? Labour Under what govt did zero hour contracts become known? Labour Under what govt did the UK experience the worst recession in history? Labour Under what govt were the feckless bailed out? Labour Under what govt did our a lot of our schools and hospitals get privatised and then rented back to us? Labour The list could go on. It'll take about 50 years to get over 13 years of New Labour. And back in 97 we were warned: New Labour, Same Old Labour. Borrow, Spend, Tax, Spend. Who is the party of zero hour contracts, job losses, zero economic growth, poverty, cruelty and recession? LABOUR. All took place under Labour. Who maxed out the country's credit card? LABOUR New Labour, New Danger. drbeat
  • Score: 0

6:33pm Fri 15 Aug 14

drbeat says...

The Labour Govts view on Zero Hour Contracts:

“The Government wishes to retain the flexibility these contracts offer business and believes that the National Minimum Wage and Working Time Directive will provide important basic protections against some of the potential abuses”.

http://webarchive.na
tionalarchives.gov.u
k/+/http:/www.berr.g
ov.uk/files/file2443
6.pdf

See page 15.

They knew about zero hour contracts and did NOTHING about it.
The Labour Govts view on Zero Hour Contracts: “The Government wishes to retain the flexibility these contracts offer business and believes that the National Minimum Wage and Working Time Directive will provide important basic protections against some of the potential abuses”. http://webarchive.na tionalarchives.gov.u k/+/http:/www.berr.g ov.uk/files/file2443 6.pdf See page 15. They knew about zero hour contracts and did NOTHING about it. drbeat
  • Score: 0

6:40pm Fri 15 Aug 14

drbeat says...

Recession under Labour Q2-2008 until Q3-2009 = 7.2% drop in GDP

Recession under Tories & Libs Q4-2011 until Q2-2012 = 0.6% drop in GDP

http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/List_of_rec
essions_in_the_Unite
d_Kingdom

Oh let me guess, "it all started in America".
Recession under Labour Q2-2008 until Q3-2009 = 7.2% drop in GDP Recession under Tories & Libs Q4-2011 until Q2-2012 = 0.6% drop in GDP http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/List_of_rec essions_in_the_Unite d_Kingdom Oh let me guess, "it all started in America". drbeat
  • Score: -4

6:49pm Fri 15 Aug 14

drbeat says...

Unemployment: May 1997 (Start of New Labour Govt)
- Unemployed 16+: 2.05 million
- Jobseekers Allowance 18+: 1.62 million

Unemployment April 2010 (End of New Labour Govt)
- Unemployed 16+: 2.49 million
- Jobseekers Allowance 18+: 1.53 million

Unemployment June 2014
- Unemployed 16+: 2.12 million
- Jobseekers Allowance 18+: 1.09 million

So after all that borrowing, taxation and spending where did 13 years of New Labour get us? Expensive housing, that's about it.
Unemployment: May 1997 (Start of New Labour Govt) - Unemployed 16+: 2.05 million - Jobseekers Allowance 18+: 1.62 million Unemployment April 2010 (End of New Labour Govt) - Unemployed 16+: 2.49 million - Jobseekers Allowance 18+: 1.53 million Unemployment June 2014 - Unemployed 16+: 2.12 million - Jobseekers Allowance 18+: 1.09 million So after all that borrowing, taxation and spending where did 13 years of New Labour get us? Expensive housing, that's about it. drbeat
  • Score: -1

7:00pm Fri 15 Aug 14

drbeat says...

Want to know our debt? Read:
http://www.debtbombs
hell.com/

And you'll see the spending splurge Brown and Labour embarked on since inheriting a near budget surplus in 1997.
Want to know our debt? Read: http://www.debtbombs hell.com/ And you'll see the spending splurge Brown and Labour embarked on since inheriting a near budget surplus in 1997. drbeat
  • Score: -3

7:18pm Fri 15 Aug 14

Europeanist64 says...

Under what govt did Rover go bust? - Rover was already a private company by 1997, sold off to a procession of asset strippers.

Under what govt did the UK experience the biggest fall in GDP since the war? Labour

Under what govt did house prices get out of reach for the average worker on an average salary? - this was mainly fuelled by Tory Lawson's low interests and restrictions on building new social housing to replace that sold off by Thatch.

Under what govt did mortgage fraud and liars loans explode and drive up house prices? That had been going on for decades and happens now.

Under what govt sold of the UK gold reserves at the lowest possible price? Oil is now more precious than gold.

Under what govt did the MP Expenses scandal take place? Labour, no that was going on for decades

Under what govt did the debasing of our currency take place aka quantitative easing? Our currency has not been debased

Under what govt did the banks go bust? Labour

Under what govt took our lads into an illegal war in Iraq? Labour, just like the illegal Falklands war under Thatch, it was against a UN resolution

Under what govt did our national debt get over a trillion pounds? Labour. It had reach this under Thatch too.

Under what govt was a 'light touch' applied to the City? This was begun by Thatcher's deregulation of bank liquidity ratios in 1983.

Under what govt were interest rates lowered to 0.5% meaning savers got nothing in return for being prudent with their money? They got much better returns with ISAs

Under what govt did zero hour contracts become known? - Zero hour contracts have been around for decades

Under what govt did the UK experience the worst recession in history? That was under the National Government in 1931, led by the Tories

Under what govt were the feckless bailed out? - Who do you mean by the feckless? Working people who lost their jobs because of Tory policies?

Under what govt did our a lot of our schools and hospitals get privatised and then rented back to us? Most hospitals and schools are still state property, and where PFI took place they are underwritten by the Treasury
Under what govt did Rover go bust? - Rover was already a private company by 1997, sold off to a procession of asset strippers. Under what govt did the UK experience the biggest fall in GDP since the war? Labour Under what govt did house prices get out of reach for the average worker on an average salary? - this was mainly fuelled by Tory Lawson's low interests and restrictions on building new social housing to replace that sold off by Thatch. Under what govt did mortgage fraud and liars loans explode and drive up house prices? That had been going on for decades and happens now. Under what govt sold of the UK gold reserves at the lowest possible price? Oil is now more precious than gold. Under what govt did the MP Expenses scandal take place? Labour, no that was going on for decades Under what govt did the debasing of our currency take place aka quantitative easing? Our currency has not been debased Under what govt did the banks go bust? Labour Under what govt took our lads into an illegal war in Iraq? Labour, just like the illegal Falklands war under Thatch, it was against a UN resolution Under what govt did our national debt get over a trillion pounds? Labour. It had reach this under Thatch too. Under what govt was a 'light touch' applied to the City? This was begun by Thatcher's deregulation of bank liquidity ratios in 1983. Under what govt were interest rates lowered to 0.5% meaning savers got nothing in return for being prudent with their money? They got much better returns with ISAs Under what govt did zero hour contracts become known? - Zero hour contracts have been around for decades Under what govt did the UK experience the worst recession in history? That was under the National Government in 1931, led by the Tories Under what govt were the feckless bailed out? - Who do you mean by the feckless? Working people who lost their jobs because of Tory policies? Under what govt did our a lot of our schools and hospitals get privatised and then rented back to us? Most hospitals and schools are still state property, and where PFI took place they are underwritten by the Treasury Europeanist64
  • Score: 3

8:19pm Fri 15 Aug 14

drbeat says...

Rover was already a private company by 1997, sold off to a procession of asset strippers.

WRONG: Rover was sold to BAE who at worst did not invest enough into the company but instead relied on Honda, a company who saved Austin under the Tories but did not take 100% ownership. They sold it to BMW who then disposed of it BUT left a 500 million fund for the Phoenix Idiots. Under Labour, those idiots lined their pockets and drove the business into bankruptcy. Under Labour, years of British engineering innovation in the form of Powertrain was then shipped to China.

This was mainly fuelled by Tory Lawson's low interests and restrictions on building new social housing to replace that sold off by Thatch.

WRONG. Right to Buy was what gave people a stake in a property which under a Labour govt. they would have been renting all their lives. Why should a roof over the head fund council salaries and pensions? But as a result of the Lawson Boom house prices FELL. Under New Labour house prices rose from an average of 80k to over 200k. Wages hadn't gone up? So how did this happen? Mortgage fraud, Buy To Let, and lax lending which happened under a Labour govt. The view of a Labour Govt is more landlords and rent all your life, the view of the Tories back then was to own your own home. The Tories today have opted for the New Labour way on housing hence why it's still a disaster.

That had been going on for decades and happens now.

WRONG: Self Cert Mortgages and Liars Loans hit our shores in the very late 90s and early 2000s. MMR ensures that it doesn't happen now.

Oil is now more precious than gold.

WTF? So you have no answer to Broon selling off our gold reserves on the cheap so you come out with that nugget? Why do I bother. OK, so how about if he'd held on to them and sold in 2009? Do you know how much gold would have been worth back then when compared to 8 years previous?

No that was going on for decades

WRONG: All the evidence points to a specific time period from 2000 onwards. Tony Blair's expenses were 'shredded' by mistake?

Our currency has not been debased

WRONG: By analogy, "debased currency" is sometimes used for anything whose value has been reduced. Since your hero Alistair Darling's QE (as you put it) our currency value has fallen by 30% against the dollar. Prices are not going up. The value of our QE'd currency is going DOWN.

just like the illegal Falklands war under Thatch, it was against a UN resolution

WRONG? United Nations Security Council Resolution 502 was a resolution adopted by the United Nations Security Council on 3 April 1982. After expressing its concern at the invasion of the Falkland Islands by the armed forces of Argentina, the Council demanded an immediate cessation of hostilities between Argentina and the United Kingdom and a complete withdrawal by Argentine forces. The Council also called on the governments of Argentina and the United Kingdom to seek a diplomatic solution to the situation and refrain from further military action.

The resolution, tabled by the British representative Sir Anthony Parsons, was adopted by 10 votes to 1 against (Panama) with four abstentions (China, Poland, Spain and the Soviet Union).

Resolution 502, which was in the United Kingdom's favour, gave the UK the option to invoke Article 51 of the United Nations Charter and claim the right of self-defence. It was supported by members of the Commonwealth and by the European Economic Community, which later imposed sanctions on Argentina.

http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/United_Nati
ons_Security_Council
_Resolution_502

It had reach this under Thatch too.

WRONG...just plain wrong, and you know that too. Our deficit never reached a trillion under thatcher.

This was begun by Thatcher's deregulation of bank liquidity ratios in 1983.

WRONG: Broon removed the BoE from supervising the City and handed the role to the weak and Labour created FSA...who did nothing.

They got much better returns with ISAs

WRONG: Old people and pensioners who downsized couldn't put their life savings etc into an ISA you fool. Even ISAs were returning pitiful amounts. And who abolished the PEP in favour of the ISA? Labour.

Zero hour contracts have been around for decades

WTF? So why are you pinning Zero Hour Contracts on the current lot? Labour had an opportunity to address it many times but DIDN'T. Zero Hour Contracts grew under Labour because of the economic mistake which is Working Tax Credits.

That was under the National Government in 1931, led by the Tories

WRONG: The National Government led by Labour's Ramsay MacDonald experienced a GDP drop of 0.7% in 1930 and 5.1% 1931. Still lower than the New Labour recession. The Tory Stanley Baldwin took over in June 1935. Read and compute: MacDonald's National Government 1931–1935.

Who do you mean by the feckless? Working people who lost their jobs because of Tory policies?

I'm mean idiots who borrowed too much, paid too much for overpriced houses, lied to get a mortgage and then lost their jobs because of Labour policies. Labour's interest rate cuts, QE and funding for lending all designed to keep BTL landlords in business, construction firms in business (sitting on overpriced land) and idiots who paid massively over the odds for an overpriced asset: a house. Does that not compute in your left-tard mind? Many people saved and made sacrifices. But how did Labour reward them? Cut rates to 0.5% and debase the currency.

Most hospitals and schools are still state property, and where PFI took place they are underwritten by the Treasury

WRONG: You don't understand PFI do you? The school or hospital is financed by a private investment vehicle which is owned by the banks and the markets. They build the schools and hospitals and then rent them back to the taxpayer for 30 years. After 30 years do we own it? NO. We have to renegotiate another deal. The up side is the debt is kept off the balance sheet, the downside is the shareholders come before patients and pupils. Does that compute?

Sorry, but you scored 0. You're very misinformed and you obviously cannot be bothered to look up the facts. I don't care about the Libs or Cons...they're just an extension of New Labour. What I do care about is challenging 'Progressives' like you who seem to only want to rewrite history. In your mind, your political view is from 1979 to 1997...big gap...and then 2010 onwards. Very sad.
Rover was already a private company by 1997, sold off to a procession of asset strippers. WRONG: Rover was sold to BAE who at worst did not invest enough into the company but instead relied on Honda, a company who saved Austin under the Tories but did not take 100% ownership. They sold it to BMW who then disposed of it BUT left a 500 million fund for the Phoenix Idiots. Under Labour, those idiots lined their pockets and drove the business into bankruptcy. Under Labour, years of British engineering innovation in the form of Powertrain was then shipped to China. This was mainly fuelled by Tory Lawson's low interests and restrictions on building new social housing to replace that sold off by Thatch. WRONG. Right to Buy was what gave people a stake in a property which under a Labour govt. they would have been renting all their lives. Why should a roof over the head fund council salaries and pensions? But as a result of the Lawson Boom house prices FELL. Under New Labour house prices rose from an average of 80k to over 200k. Wages hadn't gone up? So how did this happen? Mortgage fraud, Buy To Let, and lax lending which happened under a Labour govt. The view of a Labour Govt is more landlords and rent all your life, the view of the Tories back then was to own your own home. The Tories today have opted for the New Labour way on housing hence why it's still a disaster. That had been going on for decades and happens now. WRONG: Self Cert Mortgages and Liars Loans hit our shores in the very late 90s and early 2000s. MMR ensures that it doesn't happen now. Oil is now more precious than gold. WTF? So you have no answer to Broon selling off our gold reserves on the cheap so you come out with that nugget? Why do I bother. OK, so how about if he'd held on to them and sold in 2009? Do you know how much gold would have been worth back then when compared to 8 years previous? No that was going on for decades WRONG: All the evidence points to a specific time period from 2000 onwards. Tony Blair's expenses were 'shredded' by mistake? Our currency has not been debased WRONG: By analogy, "debased currency" is sometimes used for anything whose value has been reduced. Since your hero Alistair Darling's QE (as you put it) our currency value has fallen by 30% against the dollar. Prices are not going up. The value of our QE'd currency is going DOWN. just like the illegal Falklands war under Thatch, it was against a UN resolution WRONG? United Nations Security Council Resolution 502 was a resolution adopted by the United Nations Security Council on 3 April 1982. After expressing its concern at the invasion of the Falkland Islands by the armed forces of Argentina, the Council demanded an immediate cessation of hostilities between Argentina and the United Kingdom and a complete withdrawal by Argentine forces. The Council also called on the governments of Argentina and the United Kingdom to seek a diplomatic solution to the situation and refrain from further military action. The resolution, tabled by the British representative Sir Anthony Parsons,[1] was adopted by 10 votes to 1 against (Panama) with four abstentions (China, Poland, Spain and the Soviet Union). Resolution 502, which was in the United Kingdom's favour, gave the UK the option to invoke Article 51 of the United Nations Charter and claim the right of self-defence. It was supported by members of the Commonwealth and by the European Economic Community, which later imposed sanctions on Argentina.[2][3] http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/United_Nati ons_Security_Council _Resolution_502 It had reach this under Thatch too. WRONG...just plain wrong, and you know that too. Our deficit never reached a trillion under thatcher. This was begun by Thatcher's deregulation of bank liquidity ratios in 1983. WRONG: Broon removed the BoE from supervising the City and handed the role to the weak and Labour created FSA...who did nothing. They got much better returns with ISAs WRONG: Old people and pensioners who downsized couldn't put their life savings etc into an ISA you fool. Even ISAs were returning pitiful amounts. And who abolished the PEP in favour of the ISA? Labour. Zero hour contracts have been around for decades WTF? So why are you pinning Zero Hour Contracts on the current lot? Labour had an opportunity to address it many times but DIDN'T. Zero Hour Contracts grew under Labour because of the economic mistake which is Working Tax Credits. That was under the National Government in 1931, led by the Tories WRONG: The National Government led by Labour's Ramsay MacDonald experienced a GDP drop of 0.7% in 1930 and 5.1% 1931. Still lower than the New Labour recession. The Tory Stanley Baldwin took over in June 1935. Read and compute: MacDonald's National Government 1931–1935. Who do you mean by the feckless? Working people who lost their jobs because of Tory policies? I'm mean idiots who borrowed too much, paid too much for overpriced houses, lied to get a mortgage and then lost their jobs because of Labour policies. Labour's interest rate cuts, QE and funding for lending all designed to keep BTL landlords in business, construction firms in business (sitting on overpriced land) and idiots who paid massively over the odds for an overpriced asset: a house. Does that not compute in your left-tard mind? Many people saved and made sacrifices. But how did Labour reward them? Cut rates to 0.5% and debase the currency. Most hospitals and schools are still state property, and where PFI took place they are underwritten by the Treasury WRONG: You don't understand PFI do you? The school or hospital is financed by a private investment vehicle which is owned by the banks and the markets. They build the schools and hospitals and then rent them back to the taxpayer for 30 years. After 30 years do we own it? NO. We have to renegotiate another deal. The up side is the debt is kept off the balance sheet, the downside is the shareholders come before patients and pupils. Does that compute? Sorry, but you scored 0. You're very misinformed and you obviously cannot be bothered to look up the facts. I don't care about the Libs or Cons...they're just an extension of New Labour. What I do care about is challenging 'Progressives' like you who seem to only want to rewrite history. In your mind, your political view is from 1979 to 1997...big gap...and then 2010 onwards. Very sad. drbeat
  • Score: -3

9:04pm Fri 15 Aug 14

drbeat says...

I love to wheel out this old chestnut for the benefit of the local Labour Party:

http://youtu.be/aCQR
EoAmsu0
I love to wheel out this old chestnut for the benefit of the local Labour Party: http://youtu.be/aCQR EoAmsu0 drbeat
  • Score: -2

9:30pm Fri 15 Aug 14

drbeat says...

Want to know why our economy is so bad? Check out the following quotes from the more in tune Con Women Blog:

"For example, a single man with no children earning the minimum wage has his pay of £184 a week raised to £254 by tax credits and housing benefits. If he has a wife and two children, this is boosted to £543, so that welfare payments make up 66 per cent of his £28,241 annual income."

"The UK currently spends around £30 billion a year on tax credits. According to the government's Migration Advisory Committee, £5 billion of that is paid to foreign nationals."

http://conservativew
oman.co.uk/jill-kirb
y-pro-immigrant-lobb
y-dont-say-two-third
s-income-minimum-wag
e-family-handouts/

So the single skilled guy who earns 28k gets nothing, yet the unskilled guy on minimum wage with a wife and two kids gets topped up by Tax Credits to the tune of £28k. Effectively, the single guy on 28k is paying more in tax than the unskilled guy YET he is subsidising the lifestyle of the unskilled? So why would anyone bother to get skilled up when they know there are mugs out there who will subsidise their life choices - which in an equal world why wouldn't be able to afford?

Big business knows this hence why they prefer to hire unskilled labour and pay minimum wage. The skilled folk who earn and pay tax are not only subsidising the unskilled, but they are also subsidising big business: Tescos, Sainsburys, Morrisons etc.

And not to mention 5 billion handed over to foreign unskilled workers? No wonder they come here!!.

This is what 'Progressives' like Europeanist69 want. They have a pathological hatred of those who work hard to stand on their own two feet WITHOUT handouts. They want the poor to remain poor, they want the real worker to subsidise the poor and to keep the poor in poverty through this economic disaster which is Tax Credits.
Want to know why our economy is so bad? Check out the following quotes from the more in tune Con Women Blog: "For example, a single man with no children earning the minimum wage has his pay of £184 a week raised to £254 by tax credits and housing benefits. If he has a wife and two children, this is boosted to £543, so that welfare payments make up 66 per cent of his £28,241 annual income." "The UK currently spends around £30 billion a year on tax credits. According to the government's Migration Advisory Committee, £5 billion of that is paid to foreign nationals." http://conservativew oman.co.uk/jill-kirb y-pro-immigrant-lobb y-dont-say-two-third s-income-minimum-wag e-family-handouts/ So the single skilled guy who earns 28k gets nothing, yet the unskilled guy on minimum wage with a wife and two kids gets topped up by Tax Credits to the tune of £28k. Effectively, the single guy on 28k is paying more in tax than the unskilled guy YET he is subsidising the lifestyle of the unskilled? So why would anyone bother to get skilled up when they know there are mugs out there who will subsidise their life choices - which in an equal world why wouldn't be able to afford? Big business knows this hence why they prefer to hire unskilled labour and pay minimum wage. The skilled folk who earn and pay tax are not only subsidising the unskilled, but they are also subsidising big business: Tescos, Sainsburys, Morrisons etc. And not to mention 5 billion handed over to foreign unskilled workers? No wonder they come here!!. This is what 'Progressives' like Europeanist69 want. They have a pathological hatred of those who work hard to stand on their own two feet WITHOUT handouts. They want the poor to remain poor, they want the real worker to subsidise the poor and to keep the poor in poverty through this economic disaster which is Tax Credits. drbeat
  • Score: 2

12:32am Sat 16 Aug 14

Europeanist64 says...

drbeat: Don't make assumptions - I'm certainly no "progressive" and I don't have a hatred of those in work or want to improve their lives through enterprise and business, my wish is that those opportunities are spread to more people. Also I certainly don't want the poor to remain poor. There needs to be more opportunities for people to gain "real market" jobs and raise their living standards. The Tories use the market to concentrate wealth and opportunities and an into the hands of fewer people. In answer to above:

1. Rover - so the company should have been left in the public sector, or the private owners should not have been allowed to expose the company to the free market? Bit of a contradiction here.

2. Our currency is NOT based on gold reserves.

3. Thatcher DID deregulate bank lending in 1983 by basically doing away with liquidity/deposit ratios. That was the long term cause of the banking crisis. Lending by UK banks grew from 12 times deposits in 1983 to 86 times by 2008, when things went bust. There is huge banking crisis looming in the future because the Chinese are the biggest lenders and their banks have lent out over 300 times their deposits. No governments since the 1970s have acted to check this. Allowing more deregulation was not the way, my claim was that it started in 1983.

3. Resolution 502 required a cessation of hostilities not a British military task force.

4. Yep PFI sure was bad, but there is an underwriting by the Treasury

5. Tax Credits, as a high income earner I'm glad there is some distribution towards those families who work very hard for minimum wages or who are working and are under-employed.

6. Your arguments are undermined by having to abuse those who disagree with you.


7. Your Tory website is selective and doesn't recognise that the contribution to our economy and society from "foreign nationals" is a plus and not a drain.
drbeat: Don't make assumptions - I'm certainly no "progressive" and I don't have a hatred of those in work or want to improve their lives through enterprise and business, my wish is that those opportunities are spread to more people. Also I certainly don't want the poor to remain poor. There needs to be more opportunities for people to gain "real market" jobs and raise their living standards. The Tories use the market to concentrate wealth and opportunities and an into the hands of fewer people. In answer to above: 1. Rover - so the company should have been left in the public sector, or the private owners should not have been allowed to expose the company to the free market? Bit of a contradiction here. 2. Our currency is NOT based on gold reserves. 3. Thatcher DID deregulate bank lending in 1983 by basically doing away with liquidity/deposit ratios. That was the long term cause of the banking crisis. Lending by UK banks grew from 12 times deposits in 1983 to 86 times by 2008, when things went bust. There is huge banking crisis looming in the future because the Chinese are the biggest lenders and their banks have lent out over 300 times their deposits. No governments since the 1970s have acted to check this. Allowing more deregulation was not the way, my claim was that it started in 1983. 3. Resolution 502 required a cessation of hostilities not a British military task force. 4. Yep PFI sure was bad, but there is an underwriting by the Treasury 5. Tax Credits, as a high income earner I'm glad there is some distribution towards those families who work very hard for minimum wages or who are working and are under-employed. 6. Your arguments are undermined by having to abuse those who disagree with you. 7. Your Tory website is selective and doesn't recognise that the contribution to our economy and society from "foreign nationals" is a plus and not a drain. Europeanist64
  • Score: -1

10:01am Sat 16 Aug 14

Jerome K says...

Oh no, Wyre Forest Conservative Party's 2nd most eloquent statesman has been let out from Margaret Thatcher House on day release. Surely a condition of his release is to keep him away from a keyboard? I'd love to see them all when they're back inside after curfew, must be like the Mad Hatters Tea Party. They're all mad I tell you, Doctor....Doctor....
Doc Doc Doc Doc Doctor Beat, Doc Doc Doc Doc Doctor Beat........Nurse...
...
Oh no, Wyre Forest Conservative Party's 2nd most eloquent statesman has been let out from Margaret Thatcher House on day release. Surely a condition of his release is to keep him away from a keyboard? I'd love to see them all when they're back inside after curfew, must be like the Mad Hatters Tea Party. They're all mad I tell you, Doctor....Doctor.... Doc Doc Doc Doc Doctor Beat, Doc Doc Doc Doc Doctor Beat........Nurse... ... Jerome K
  • Score: 6

7:52am Mon 18 Aug 14

BewdleyBugle says...

I have no idea who dr beat is, but hopefully the time he/she spends spouting this rubbish on here is time they are indoors and not inflicting themselves on the wider society.

I'll take the bait on one of their examples, that £5bn in tax credits go to migrant workers. Always best to look a the whole report, in my view, rather than relying on a single quote on Con Women cut and pasted from an article from the Daily Telegraph. To quote the actual report:

"As tax credits are targeted at those in lower paid work, comparing this proportion with the share of low-skilled employment that is non-UK born (16 per cent) suggests migrant workers are only marginally more likely to be tax credit claimants than UK nationals." So they are claiming tax credits in similar proportions to UK born workers in similar jobs.
I have no idea who dr beat is, but hopefully the time he/she spends spouting this rubbish on here is time they are indoors and not inflicting themselves on the wider society. I'll take the bait on one of their examples, that £5bn in tax credits go to migrant workers. Always best to look a the whole report, in my view, rather than relying on a single quote on Con Women cut and pasted from an article from the Daily Telegraph. To quote the actual report: "As tax credits are targeted at those in lower paid work, comparing this proportion with the share of low-skilled employment that is non-UK born (16 per cent) suggests migrant workers are only marginally more likely to be tax credit claimants than UK nationals." So they are claiming tax credits in similar proportions to UK born workers in similar jobs. BewdleyBugle
  • Score: 5

8:02am Mon 18 Aug 14

BewdleyBugle says...

OK, one more. Dr beat doesn't seem to like zero hours contracts, so perhaps s/he can tell us what the Tories have done about them over the last four years, and what their current policy is. Even The Spectator doesn't have a clue:

http://blogs.spectat
or.co.uk/coffeehouse
/2013/07/what-do-the
-tories-think-about-
zero-hours-contracts
-they-dont-seem-very
-keen-to-tell-us/
OK, one more. Dr beat doesn't seem to like zero hours contracts, so perhaps s/he can tell us what the Tories have done about them over the last four years, and what their current policy is. Even The Spectator doesn't have a clue: http://blogs.spectat or.co.uk/coffeehouse /2013/07/what-do-the -tories-think-about- zero-hours-contracts -they-dont-seem-very -keen-to-tell-us/ BewdleyBugle
  • Score: 4

3:42pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Barefoot and different says...

The point of this argument is simple to anyone who is classed as in the bottom 10% of society and that is that no matter who is in power, who suffers the most! The poorest, weakest and the most vulnerable in society! Why vote, they are all a waste of time and effort!
The point of this argument is simple to anyone who is classed as in the bottom 10% of society and that is that no matter who is in power, who suffers the most! The poorest, weakest and the most vulnerable in society! Why vote, they are all a waste of time and effort! Barefoot and different
  • Score: -5

5:17pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Jerome K says...

Not true. You will suffer far far more under the Tories if you are in the bottom 10%, or even bottom 20%.
Not true. You will suffer far far more under the Tories if you are in the bottom 10%, or even bottom 20%. Jerome K
  • Score: 5

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